So what your saying is, you have no proof.
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So what your saying is, you have no proof.
The MaD Hatter
Well-Known Member
Like so many other great, former attractions, there is absolutely no chance of AC coming back anytime in the foreseeable future. Maybe one day we'll see some nostalgic fans running TDO and they'll bring back some of these glorious sites; until then, don't count on it. 
asianway
Well-Known Member
Still waiting for the AC to be rubble-I believe March was the date given...
As Posted by Debbie Sanders Conn on the "Save the Adventurers Club" Facbook Page:
The celebration of all things adventurous is upon us, don't miss out!
The celebration of all things adventurous is upon us, don't miss out!
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Your arithmetic abilities must be laughable.
wdw71fan
Well-Known Member
you know.. I was just sharing what I know, just because it doesn't jive with your dreams doesn't me you should attack me..
I still haven't seen or heard ANYTHING that would suggest the club(s) are returning in any way.. believe it or doubt it, love it or hate it is up to you.. but you don't have to hate on me.
I still haven't seen or heard ANYTHING that would suggest the club(s) are returning in any way.. believe it or doubt it, love it or hate it is up to you.. but you don't have to hate on me.
Mouse Detective
Well-Known Member
You stated quite a few months ago that there should be a PI or DTD announcement soon. Have you heard anything further about this? Tomorrow is 4 years since they closed everything.
Did Knee
Active Member
Four years.....all the clubs have been replaced by what? Two Restaurants. This does not seem to be a good plan. We keep hearing about impending plans: first Hyperion Wharf, and more recently a big mall-like structure and multi-level parking garage. Still even that doesn't seem to be coming to fruition any time soon.
Is Zeus fishing still in the club building? I know that the return of the AC is unlikely. I am a realist, and not a wild eyed fanatic. That said, until the AC building has been re-purposed or demolished, I will not stop hoping for and lobbying for its return. Once the original location is no longer an option, I will still lobby for it to rise like a phoenix elsewhere on the property. I just had too much fun there to just forget it.
Is Zeus fishing still in the club building? I know that the return of the AC is unlikely. I am a realist, and not a wild eyed fanatic. That said, until the AC building has been re-purposed or demolished, I will not stop hoping for and lobbying for its return. Once the original location is no longer an option, I will still lobby for it to rise like a phoenix elsewhere on the property. I just had too much fun there to just forget it.
wdw71fan
Well-Known Member
Yes I did... and what stopped it was that it was still being viewed as a 'shoot from the hip' plan (much like the initial plan for fantasyland that a was scrapped) and the power-that-be wanted it to be re-washed and make sure it was more than the Hyperion plans were.... A lot of people don't realize that the Hyperion plans came out VERY premature, and that they were mostly blue-sky concepts and drawings that were presented..
Basically, seeing hyperion was like being told that Disneyland was going to look like the first drawing that Walt had commissioned.. it was an idea.. not a finished, polished product.. You saw concept, not planned reality.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Actually, we are all well aware of what HW was. Thanks though.
So would I be correct in stating an announcement about dtd is a ways off and not planned anytime soon?
John
Well-Known Member
There is as much info on DTD as there was four yrs ago
Four years ago today Disney made a great mistake. Let us hope by next year at this time, that mistake will be corrected. And to help that dream along, we must keep putting the pressure onto Disney about how much the Adventurers Club is loved, missed and how badly it is wanted to make a return. So, I though it would be a good idea to once again post the "Pleasure Island Guest Survey" I put up a few months ago.
The Club has more support than anyone truely realizes, and it will take just a bit more convincing to see it return. Please adventurers, do not give up, for we will be marching back to 5189 Hill St. for another Hoopla yet!
John
Well-Known Member
As much as some members post issues about the parks, DTD is one of my pet peeves. Why? Because of the level of stupidity that TDO has displayed when it comes to this under utilized, under funded, and totally mismanaged.
Four years ago is just a milestone in the carnage that was known as DTD/PI. Long before this day DTD/PI was destined to become what it has become today. Its been well documented what happened. Plain and simple....TDO refused to put money into the place. Retail and nightlife places like DTD/PI need constant updates. The things that are failing need to be replaced quickly with new energy all the time. This isnt just for PI but for DTD as a whole.
We are now not four years into this but more like 8-10 years into it. We have been hearing for the last couple of years that....something is comming, yet it never does. Is there hope? I guess there is in the fact that something will ultimately be done..........sooner or later. The thing that bothers me the most is that unlike the parks money invested in DTD/PI has an immediate return. SO much money has been lost. Money that could be used for so many things. TDO in its arrogance thought that outseide vendors would be knocking down the doors to rent space. Today we have no announcement we have no movement.....just more speculation.
This is also very much related to ALL the recent rumors we have been hearing about not only DTD but also the parks......as much as we wish, want and hope there really is nothing concrete going on. Theres whispers, rumbleings and rumors......thats about it.
Four years ago is just a milestone in the carnage that was known as DTD/PI. Long before this day DTD/PI was destined to become what it has become today. Its been well documented what happened. Plain and simple....TDO refused to put money into the place. Retail and nightlife places like DTD/PI need constant updates. The things that are failing need to be replaced quickly with new energy all the time. This isnt just for PI but for DTD as a whole.
We are now not four years into this but more like 8-10 years into it. We have been hearing for the last couple of years that....something is comming, yet it never does. Is there hope? I guess there is in the fact that something will ultimately be done..........sooner or later. The thing that bothers me the most is that unlike the parks money invested in DTD/PI has an immediate return. SO much money has been lost. Money that could be used for so many things. TDO in its arrogance thought that outseide vendors would be knocking down the doors to rent space. Today we have no announcement we have no movement.....just more speculation.
This is also very much related to ALL the recent rumors we have been hearing about not only DTD but also the parks......as much as we wish, want and hope there really is nothing concrete going on. Theres whispers, rumbleings and rumors......thats about it.
menamechris
Well-Known Member
You sooo wanna be an insider - and that makes me smile...and chuckle sometimes. No hate here
Polydweller
Well-Known Member
I don't see it as arrogance as much as it was management badly misreading the business climate. Four years ago we just started to enter this great recession. They chose about the worst moment they could to close their current businesses and to try to start a new retail venture. In this business climate it isn't going to happen. Should have read the stock market collapse and halted the initiative. The evidence was there.
Now they seem to be stuck with apparently no new vendors on the horizon and some difficulty to go backwards. Maybe they have some idea in mind but we'll have to get an announcement to know.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
The only difficulty is admitting that they made a mistake...something that they are loath to do.
71jason
Well-Known Member
You seem new to this thread, so I'll do this one more time, off the top of my head...
New tourist-oriented retail ventures on West 192 since PI closed:
- Applebees
- Bahama Breeze
- Alehouse
- Buffalo Wild Wings
- Wildfire Bar-B-Que
- Super Target (that one may be within a month or two either way)
- Flippers
- Sweet Tomatoes
- Joe's Crab Shack
- Texas Road House
- Logans Road House
- Panera
- Bonefish Grill
- Dave & Busters (had lines out the door the first month)
- Senor Frogs
- Joe's Crab Shack
- Benihana
- Alehouse
- Brickhouse
- TGI Fridays
New tourist-oriented retail ventures on 535 since PI close:
- Applebees
- Santa Fe
- Flippers
- Sweet Tomatoes
- The Knife
You're trying to give DTD management a fig leaf for their incompetence they don't deserve. The tourist market is fine in Orlando (btw, maybe you noticed a giant new hotel opened this year on property as well?). DTD management has no idea what the market needs, and no idea what fair rents should be.
Polydweller
Well-Known Member
Can't disagree with that. My experience is that most managers can't do that and that is another failing that causes businesses to get caught in binds like Disney finds itself in. Can't go forward and have to admit errors to go back.
Polydweller
Well-Known Member
Depends on how you want to read my post I guess, but not giving them a fig leaf at all. I'm saying they made a bad management mistake, that's not exactly a positive. They weren't interested in Applebee's level places, they thought there would be more places like Splitsville coming knocking at their door. They wanted specialty and upscale vendors and those haven't expanded their businesses as much. They were getting rid of the lower end as shown by McDonald's. Bad management misread and not giving them a pass at all.