Save the Adventurers Club

zulemara

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There was a persistent rumor, heard from a couple CMs, that the initial plan was to drop the "Pleasure Island" name. However, the remaining tenants, particularly Raglan but also Fuego and Curl, had spent a lot of money marketing themselves as part of PI. The fear was dropping the name would have been a material change in the lease (my lawyer term, not theirs) giving them an out to leave...which I hear was very much on Raglan's mind. (Notice they cut hours from 2:00 am to 11:00 pm most nights--for a bar, that had to kill their profits.)

Plus, it costs money to change signs. TDO don't seem to like spending money when they can avoid it.

yep, same I heard. Thus they ended up being insistent that PI was not closing, only the clubs were.
 

MKCP 1985

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when they closed the clubs, they were very adamant that "Pleasure Island is not closing, only the clubs are" because of other businesses that reside on PI, they didn't wasnt ppl thinking those were also closing. That's why they have left the name in use and didn't immediately get rid of all references.

I was there on the night before the last night the clubs were open and you are correct. My clearest recollection from that night was the Pleasure Island DJ saying over the loudspeaker time after time "Pleasure Island is not closing."

That explanation makes sense as to why they were so adamant.
 

Mouse Detective

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There was a persistent rumor, heard from a couple CMs, that the initial plan was to drop the "Pleasure Island" name.

This was definitely the original plan as they wanted no direct comparisons between an old Pleasure Island and a new Pleasure Island. Remember, the plan was definite enough that AMC Pleasure Island 24 quickly changed their name to AMC Downtown Disney 24. And it was definite enough that Hyperion Wharf was going to be the new name for Pleasure Island.

Right now, we don't know what they're going to do with the name.
 

John

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I was there on the night before the last night the clubs were open and you are correct. My clearest recollection from that night was the Pleasure Island DJ saying over the loudspeaker time after time "Pleasure Island is not closing."

That explanation makes sense as to why they were so adamant.



To me that is only symantics. Seriously. But it is interesting about the surviving vendors. Ragalan especially. To cut hours like that is not a good sign. Not sure how long their lease was but wouldnt be surprised if something isnt done with PI that Ragalan closes. I think that these legal issues explain atleast part of why the PI name is still used. I just wonder if Ragalan had knew that the clubs were going to close would they have opened in the first place?

That leads me to wonder what agreement and wording the other vendors have in their leases with TDO? This is all very interesting....the plot thickens!
 

Polydweller

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To me that is only symantics. Seriously. But it is interesting about the surviving vendors. Ragalan especially. To cut hours like that is not a good sign. Not sure how long their lease was but wouldnt be surprised if something isnt done with PI that Ragalan closes. I think that these legal issues explain atleast part of why the PI name is still used. I just wonder if Ragalan had knew that the clubs were going to close would they have opened in the first place?

That leads me to wonder what agreement and wording the other vendors have in their leases with TDO? This is all very interesting....the plot thickens!

Not sure the hours cut back is that significant. Several of the hotels in our hotel group have them and the hours all different based on customer base. You are paying staff to be there until 2:00am and cutting back save 3 hrs paid time for a few staff. Balanced against sales it may be a bit of a wash. This mightbalso be true if sales through 11:00 pm have increased due to the shift in customer activity due to the PI clubs closing. Does anyone know what their sales would have been like when PI was open?

You do raise a very interesting question about what wording might be with the other businesses.
 

Mouse Detective

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That leads me to wonder what agreement and wording the other vendors have in their leases with TDO? This is all very interesting....the plot thickens!

Just speculating but you have to figure stores and restaurants at PI leased their spaces thinking they were in a nightlife district that drew crowds until at least 2am. For over 3 years now these crowds have pretty much evaporated after 10PM - 11PM. That's about 3-4 hours of significantly decreased revenues.

Thus, you have to figure leases got renegotiated. Raglan Road may have been the least impacted but even they don't have many there as it gets later. Ditto Paradiso. That poor Sosa Cigar bar got their entire rear patio walled over. And Harley Davidson was given a sweet new corner location on the West Side.
 

71jason

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I just wonder if Ragalan had knew that the clubs were going to close would they have opened in the first place?

They certainly wouldn't have included as much bar space as they did. There's the main bar, the side bar, and two outside bars. They clearly planned on selling a lot of alcohol between 11 and 2 (note that live entertainment never began before 9 when PI was open).
 

Master Gracey

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Original Poster
Kungaloosh Adventurers,

ConGaloosh 2012 has been announced!
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With the loss of the club building four years ago, the House of Wong graciously opened its back room to the permanent members of the club - and even offered gainful employment to Hathaway Browne, allowing him to push the dim sum cart until he refused to stop informing patrons that his Chinese name was "Mister Hung."

However, since the last Radiothon four years ago, egg roll sales have plummeted and the restaurant desperately needs customers. In an effort to draw business, it has decided to open its doors for one night only to honorary club members as well!

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Looking at the event schedual, it seems as though there is another Adventureland Challenge being prepared, but in Tibet? Have to get more info on that! And with this year's event is only an appropriate $19.37, there is no reason not to come out and join the adventure!
 

a2grafix

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Great news that this is still alive, but wondering how I can do both as I am entered in the Tower of Terror 10 miler the same weekend.

Decisions, decisions. Where to my loyalty's lie?
 

71jason

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Do you know a business that does? Last line was unnecessary and adds nothing to the discussion.

"‘Ah! That’s why I love Walt Disney.’ It cost $100,000 to build a spire you didn’t need! That’s the secret of Disney, is doing things you don’t need and doing them well, and then you realize you needed ‘em all along.”’ -Ray Bradbury

I should have specified--Disney no longer spends money to support SHOW when it doesn't have to. Thought that was inherent in the subtext, but I forget TDO hires plants who don't know the first thing about the company's history.
 

Fable McCloud

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Look, we need the AC back. I don't care where they put it, but it needs to come back. This well all know. However...

We may never see it again, but we all know it was something magical. If we never have another round of Kungalooshes at the park, well, we need to remember that the AC's memory lives on and will not be forgotten.

Just try to stay positive that Disney will come to it's senses and give us back our club. That's all we can do right now, aside from petitions and comment cards to CMs at the parks, the only thing we can do is hope.

KUNGALOOSH!!
 

Gregoryp73

Active Member
Look, we need the AC back. I don't care where they put it, but it needs to come back. This well all know. However...

We may never see it again, but we all know it was something magical. If we never have another round of Kungalooshes at the park, well, we need to remember that the AC's memory lives on and will not be forgotten.

Just try to stay positive that Disney will come to it's senses and give us back our club. That's all we can do right now, aside from petitions and comment cards to CMs at the parks, the only thing we can do is hope.

KUNGALOOSH!!

I was looking at SFRT in AL at the MK (holy acronym!)
and it's footprint is roughly the same size as a Yak n Yeti type establishment.

I would not be sad if they leveled the treehouse in favor of the AC in MK. Granted we would lose an attraction at MK, but I think the addition of a revenue stream, and a fun interactive sit-down eatery (more upscale than the burrito palace by POTC) would be welcome on that side of the park...
 

GLaDOS

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I was looking at SFRT in AL at the MK (holy acronym!)
and it's footprint is roughly the same size as a Yak n Yeti type establishment.

I would not be sad if they leveled the treehouse in favor of the AC in MK. Granted we would lose an attraction at MK, but I think the addition of a revenue stream, and a fun interactive sit-down eatery (more upscale than the burrito palace by POTC) would be welcome on that side of the park...

Why demolish an attraction when you already have an empty restaurant at the front of Adventureland?
 

Gregoryp73

Active Member
Why demolish an attraction when you already have an empty restaurant at the front of Adventureland?

At some point in time they will most likely bring down the treehouse...Swiss Family Robinson has mostly faded into obscurity as it is (unless they did a good reboot movie)...and not to mention it's not something everyone can enjoy, as well as being an insurance nightmare.

There is only two restaurants I can think of that would fit this bill...Tortuga Tavern which is an open air counter service location. TT stays pretty busy because of it's price point. And Crystal Palace, which is located outside of AL and would not fit the theme, not to mention it does well for brunch...although if they did move the entrance to a "secret" entrance in the back and found a way to redo the front fascia to transition well I think that could be a possibility.
 

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