Save the Adventurers Club

[Did Knee]

I guess for my part, I can't understand how the sight of the occasional inebriated guest has a negative impact on anyone's vacation. For my part, my drunkest at WDW came after polishing off a bottle of wine at the wave at the contemporary after dinner, and I don't remember getting anything but a light buzz while at PI. I am sure others did, but unless they were obnoxious (a possibility I admit, but I think a rarity in the PI demographic) then how was that a negative? Because your children saw it? A quick thinking parent would turn that experience into a lesson of what not to do. Alcohol has been featured front and center in many Disney movies. Pink Elephants on Parade from Dumbo for instance, Bacchus himself in Fantasia, or more recently Linguine being soused by his boss in Ratatouille. Do you ban your kids from seeing those films? While I agree that being around obnoxious drunks in not pleasant for anyone, especially children, and that such interactions are to be minimized, the occasional interaction with a pleasant and happy drunk can actually be terribly entertaining for adults, and can be used as a "what not to do" lesson by parents to their children.

 

[G00fyDad]

I guess for my part, I can't understand how the sight of the occasional inebriated guest has a negative impact on anyone's vacation. For my part, my drunkest at WDW came after polishing off a bottle of wine at the wave at the contemporary after dinner, and I don't remember getting anything but a light buzz while at PI. I am sure others did, but unless they were obnoxious (a possibility I admit, but I think a rarity in the PI demographic) then how was that a negative? Because your children saw it? A quick thinking parent would turn that experience into a lesson of what not to do. Alcohol has been featured front and center in many Disney movies. Pink Elephants on Parade from Dumbo for instance, Bacchus himself in Fantasia, or more recently Linguine being soused by his boss in Ratatouille. Do you ban your kids from seeing those films? While I agree that being around obnoxious drunks in not pleasant for anyone, especially children, and that such interactions are to be minimized, the occasional interaction with a pleasant and happy drunk can actually be terribly entertaining for adults, and can be used as a "what not to do" lesson by parents to their children.

If you took the time to read the posts you would see that it said ruined the vacation for the moment. Not the entire vacation. But thanks for the quick reply. And yes, I have seen the occasional staggering blind drunk before. Anyone who says that they did not see it when PI was open was not very observant. And just because you don't get hammered doesn't mean everyone else does the same thing. I work with drug addicts and alcoholics and I can tell you one thing for certain, no matter how "happy" the drunk is, they are never "fun" to be around. That seems like something the obnoxious drunk themselves would say. :wave:

 

[Master Gracey]

And no debate here, but why would it not work having it in AK? Was it specifically supposed to "take place" in DTD? Keep in mind, I am completely ignorant of the whole AC thing.

According to the history of Pleasure Island, Merriweather Pleasure (founder of the Island) was an eccentric globetrotter. He and his daughter Merriam would go around the world on Pleasure's yacht the Dominoe and bring back tons of artifacts. His wife Isabella got tired of these items piling up inside their home (Portobello Yacht Club) and gave Merriweather the old "it goes or I go" speech.

Pleasure was a master domino player and on Feb. 3, 1920, in a heated game, beat the world's three top architects Sir Edwin Luytens, Charles Rennie Mackintosh, and Eliel Saarinen and as their payup, they designed the Adventurers Club on the tablecloth they were playing on.

A year later, the club was built and Pleasure's personal library and trophies were moved in. While traveling the globe, Pleasure would often invite fellow adventurers he met, back to his club, and they wouuld bring their host more exotica which was displayed in what Pleasure reffered to as the Club's "Temporary Permanent Collection" Isabella, though rid of the stuff from her house still would comment that she could smell the racid cigar smoke on the other side of the island and referred to the Club as , "Merriweather's Earthbound Treehouse".

Merriweather had missed 9 annual meetings in a row, always sending a telegram saying, "Sorry Chums. Spirit is Willing , but Body Is Somewhere Else! Carry On!" But in 1941, the telegram that came said that the Dominoe had been seen pitch poled in the Antarctic, and there was no trace on Merriweather, Merriam or the crew. All present, raised a champaign toast to Pleasure and the Club was sealed shut, never to be reopened, until Disney archeologists rediscovered the island in 1987 and restored her to her former glory.

So short answer, yes the Adventurers Club is supposed to be on the shores of Lake Buena Vista! To be placed elsewhere would take some explanation, but heck, the Club's history now can be traced to Trader Sam's in Disneyland, The Tower of Terror in Tokyo Disney Sea, Mystic Point in Hong Kong Disneyland, The Explorers Club in Disneyland Paris and Auntie's Beach House in Aulani, so it's about time that Walt Disney World gets back it's share of Adventure!

 

[unkadug]

According to the history of Pleasure Island, Merriweather Pleasure (founder of the Island) was an eccentric globetrotter. He and his daughter Merriam would go around the world on Pleasure's yacht the Dominoe and bring back tons of artifacts. His wife Isabella got tired of these items piling up inside their home (Portobello Yacht Club) and gave Merriweather the old "it goes or I go" speech.

Pleasure was a master domino player and on Feb. 3, 1920, in a heated game, beat the world's three top architects Sir Edwin Luytens, Charles Rennie Mackintosh, and Eliel Saarinen and as their payup, they designed the Adventurers Club on the tablecloth they were playing on.

A year later, the club was built and Pleasure's personal library and trophies were moved in. While traveling the globe, Pleasure would often invite fellow adventurers he met, back to his club, and they wouuld bring their host more exotica which was displayed in what Pleasure reffered to as the Club's "Temporary Permanent Collection" Isabella, though rid of the stuff from her house still would comment that she could smell the racid cigar smoke on the other side of the island and referred to the Club as , "Merriweather's Earthbound Treehouse".

Merriweather had missed 9 annual meetings in a row, always sending a telegram saying, "Sorry Chums. Spirit is Willing , but Body Is Somewhere Else! Carry On!" But in 1941, the telegram that came said that the Dominoe had been seen pitch poled in the Antarctic, and there was no trace on Merriweather, Merriam or the crew. All present, raised a champaign toast to Pleasure and the Club was sealed shut, never to be reopened, until Disney archeologists rediscovered the island in 1987 and restored her to her former glory.

So short answer, yes the Adventurers Club is supposed to be on the shores of Lake Buena Vista! To be placed elsewhere would take some explanation, but heck, the Club's history now can be traced to Trader Sam's in Disneyland, The Tower of Terror in Tokyo Disney Sea, Mystic Point in Hong Kong Disneyland, The Explorers Club in Disneyland Paris and Auntie's Beach House in Aulani, so it's about time that Walt Disney World gets back it's share of Adventure!

It's a made up story....change the story. The whole story takes explanation anyway.

 

[unkadug]

Sorry, Doug, just figured you were a GA Bulldog fan.

:lol: That would make it UggaDog! Nope...Auburn alum here

 

[hrcollectibles]

And I have seen drunk people around World Showcase as well but it has always been during the F&WF since that is when we always go. And I don't find them threatening either. It just ruins the trip, for the moment, to have my children seeing some drunk a**hat making a fool of himself or herself down the street.

I just never understood how someone could get drunk at Walt Disney World or any theme park, as the drinks are priced at least 1 1/12 times more than normal prices. Either these people are dropping serious coin to get drunk or just can't hold their alcohol.

 

[wdw71fan]

Really? Is that necessary?

Anyhow, Fletcher and the Club are alive and well. Just in need of a new home.

nope.. all dead..... and whats wrong? You can sit here and proclaim your diluted opinion that it's not dead, but I can't speak the truth that it is?


It's dead, and the way you speak of TDO/TWC/Imagineering/Management.... Do you really think they give a damn what you think? You overly criticize every move they make and then hide behind your self righteousness...

Give me a break

 

[markc]

I just never understood how someone could get drunk at Walt Disney World or any theme park, as the drinks are priced at least 1 1/12 times more than normal prices. Either these people are dropping serious coin to get drunk or just can't hold their alcohol.

All it takes is $32 to get drunk at Epcot. (4 drinks at $8 a piece...considering most of the beer they have has a higher alcohol content than standard American beer, 3 drinks can be enough to push somebody over the limit). A normal night out somewhere for somebody in their twenties will push you anywhere from $20-$30, so $32 isnt out of the norm.

At Pleasure Island - it was much easier and cheaper to get drunk. $2 a beer on Monday and Thursdays, 5 drinks and $10 later, you were set for the night.

 

[Mouse Detective]

nope.. all dead..... and whats wrong? You can sit here and proclaim your diluted opinion that it's not dead, but I can't speak the truth that it is?

Well you seem to be kind of new around here. How is it that you know (emphasis added) that it's truly dead?

 

[unkadug]

nope.. all dead..... and whats wrong? You can sit here and proclaim your diluted opinion that it's not dead, but I can't speak the truth that it is?


It's dead, and the way you speak of TDO/TWC/Imagineering/Management.... Do you really think they give a damn what you think? You overly criticize every move they make and then hide behind your self righteousness...

Give me a break

Unless you have inside information the Lee does not have, then your postings are meaningless and just troll fodder.

 

[Lee]

nope.. all dead..... and whats wrong? You can sit here and proclaim your diluted opinion that it's not dead, but I can't speak the truth that it is?


It's dead, and the way you speak of TDO/TWC/Imagineering/Management.... Do you really think they give a damn what you think? You overly criticize every move they make and then hide behind your self righteousness...

Give me a break

I criticize where I feel it is warranted. In almost every instance it is directed to those in some position of authority who I feel has made in incorrect or improper decision/move. Disney management are fair game.
As for them giving a damn, some do and some don't.

What you won't see is me attempting to antagonize other posters or engaging in troll-like behavior in an attempt to cause a negative reaction or feeling.

In regards to the Club, I have no current information. All I have is a continuing love for the place, and an stubborn hope that the company won't be so blind that they would forever ignore the voice of some of their most loyal fans/customers.

Anything wrong with that?

 

[Did Knee]

I criticize where I feel it is warranted. In almost every instance it is directed to those in some position of authority who I feel has made in incorrect or improper decision/move. Disney management are fair game.
As for them giving a damn, some do and some don't.

What you won't see is me attempting to antagonize other posters or engaging in troll-like behavior in an attempt to cause a negative reaction or feeling.

In regards to the Club, I have no current information. All I have is a continuing love for the place, and an stubborn hope that the company won't be so blind that they would forever ignore the voice of some of their most loyal fans/customers.

Anything wrong with that?

Well Said Lee. My answer to WDW71fan is simply to quote Thumper: "If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say anything at all".

 

[Master Gracey]

In regards to the Club, I have no current information. All I have is a continuing love for the place, and an stubborn hope that the company won't be so blind that they would forever ignore the voice of some of their most loyal fans/customers.

Anything wrong with that?

Nothing at all my friend and fellow Adventurer. May adventure keep calling our names and may we be able to answer her once again in the Club where it belongs!

 

[Mouse Detective]

Well Said Lee. My answer to WDW71fan is simply to quote Thumper: "If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say anything at all".

And that's why I asked wdw71fan last night to explain his basis. He acts like he's "in the know" and maybe he is. He needs to explain why whatever he says is better information than what everyone else says.

 

[71jason]

Ahhh. Got it. Thanks. :wave: It does sound like fun.

It was. And I'm not getting across how it mixed live actors, animatronics, special effects and that Disney attention to detail into a unique, "adult" experience. Not adult in language--although the double entendres would fly--but adult in that the humor was at a higher level than you'd see in the parks. At the same time, you would see jaded 40-year-old businessmen and too-cool-for-school Spring Breakers laughing together fully immersed in what I guess I would call, for lack of a better term, "Disney Magic."

 

[MichWolv]

It was. And I'm not getting across how it mixed live actors, animatronics, special effects and that Disney attention to detail into a unique, "adult" experience. Not adult in language--although the double entendres would fly--but adult in that the humor was at a higher level than you'd see in the parks. At the same time, you would see jaded 40-year-old businessmen and too-cool-for-school Spring Breakers laughing together fully immersed in what I guess I would call, for lack of a better term, "Disney Magic."

Quoted for emphasis.

 

[wdw71fan]

And that's why I asked wdw71fan last night to explain his basis. He acts like he's "in the know" and maybe he is. He needs to explain why whatever he says is better information than what everyone else says.

I don't have to explain myself at all.. The club is gutted, and the props have been re-appropriated or auctioned off..

it's dead.


as far as being "in the know"... maybe i am, maybe I'm not... either way, that doesn't change anything

 

[Rasvar]

I do know that some of the props and photos have been dispersed. Quite a few of them have ended up in Trader Sam's Tiki Bar at the Disneyland Hotel. I counted at least eight specific items that would have been unique to the club at the bar in January.

 

[unkadug]

I don't have to explain myself at all.. The club is gutted, and the props have been re-appropriated or auctioned off..

it's dead.


as far as being "in the know"... maybe i am, maybe I'm not... either way, that doesn't change anything

It certainly doesn't change the fact that your posts are flame bait.

 

[71jason]

I do know that some of the props and photos have been dispersed. Quite a few of them have ended up in Trader Sam's Tiki Bar at the Disneyland Hotel. I counted at least eight specific items that would have been unique to the club at the bar in January.

I haven't been to Trader Sam's myself, but hard core AC fans who have tell me everything in there is a replica--even the ship in a bottle.

At the end of the day, tho, this shows how unimportant the artifacts really are; if Disney wanted the Club open, they could fabricate new "artifacts" quickly, or pull them from wherever. Decorating the Club would be like #37 on the To-Do List. Updating the liquor license and occupancy permits, auditioning and re-training actors, reassigning and re-training bartenders/managers, figuring out ticketing... And they aren't going to re-open just one Club, so multiply that times 4 or 5. In the (still highly unlikely) event the clubs were to be re-opened/re-purposed, we'd hear about that long before they started hanging stuff back on the walls.