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yensidtlaw1969
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Still waiting for those Drone X-Wings to be pulled out of storage. I thought that show they did for the opening of GE was underwhelming, but the tech must certainly be capable of more.
It seems like the guys up the road have figured out how to incorporate drones into their park. Though we'll see how it goes day to day.
PREMiERdrum
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I was at the media preview party for New Fantasyland back in 2013. The added lighting, scenic enhancements, roaming characters, and the flying dragon... it was incredible. Then I visited on a normal ops day and was like, "this is it?"
But then you would just be walking around feeling a sense of childlike wonder and joy, and you wouldn't be participating in upcharges.
LSLS
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Sure, but will it still be great when the tech and animatronics stop working after a few months and they decide it's not worth fixing (sorry, jaded)?
TalkingHead
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What became of the “real” lightsaber used in the failed hotel? More money and promo all for naught?
yensidtlaw1969
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My understanding is that it's not super resilient. Think this:
It could be used in-park, but would likely need to be used very similarly to the way it was in Starcruiser - at a distance and strategically staged. Not totally sure how it looks during the daytime, either, but that may also factor.
I'm sure we'll see it again, but no idea if or when the general public will see it in person.
I mean? I got a targeted offer on December 18, 2023 that ran for a huge chunk of dates throughout 2024 including July 4th and Dec 8-25. 1 bedroom at copper creek for 35% off in December? Don’t mind if I do.
It’s insane they’ve started targeted offers at 35% off a year out.
If you are talking about what I think you are talking about, that is still very much a goer.
PREMiERdrum
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ChrisFL
Premium Member
interesting
hopemax
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*Looks at poster name*
That's a name I have not seen in a long time. Long time.
You and everyone else can get in line behind me and there was another poster that have been beating the 3rd North American Resort drum for years now. People coming to Orlando for Disney aren't skipping the MK. The only way to relieve the pressure is for them not to come to Orlando.
I'm here now (visiting Dad and friend is here, so we've been in the parks). Every time it gets worse, even when it's theoretically not that crowded. Lines for registers, non-existent. When we booked Prime Time Cafe lunch the day before, we had a whole range of times. And it's impossible to ride any good attractions without an hour wait, or 2 hours in the worst offenders. Had the misfortune of getting in the Buzz line during the parade, but did not get through before the parade ended. So then as soon as the parade passed, a rush of people holding LL rushed the queue so then the standby line just stops, or goes to 1 party per 99 LL.
They talk about revenue per guest going up, but I'd love to see distribution of how much is ticket + Genie+ + ILL vs traditionals like hotel, food, souvenirs. When I look around, I see fewer ears, fewer headbands, fewer popcorn buckets, fewer bags in hands. These things may be hot on Facebook Group sales, but from guests actually visiting? I have my doubts. Everything is being sacrificed to buy Genie+ / ILL.
I don't see how it keeps up. Eventually, there are no more standby seats to sell. Which is why I find Len's recent implications that they are looking at DAS usage again to try and find more ride seats they can potentially sell, so interesting.
That's a name I have not seen in a long time. Long time.
You and everyone else can get in line behind me and there was another poster that have been beating the 3rd North American Resort drum for years now. People coming to Orlando for Disney aren't skipping the MK. The only way to relieve the pressure is for them not to come to Orlando.
I'm here now (visiting Dad and friend is here, so we've been in the parks). Every time it gets worse, even when it's theoretically not that crowded. Lines for registers, non-existent. When we booked Prime Time Cafe lunch the day before, we had a whole range of times. And it's impossible to ride any good attractions without an hour wait, or 2 hours in the worst offenders. Had the misfortune of getting in the Buzz line during the parade, but did not get through before the parade ended. So then as soon as the parade passed, a rush of people holding LL rushed the queue so then the standby line just stops, or goes to 1 party per 99 LL.
They talk about revenue per guest going up, but I'd love to see distribution of how much is ticket + Genie+ + ILL vs traditionals like hotel, food, souvenirs. When I look around, I see fewer ears, fewer headbands, fewer popcorn buckets, fewer bags in hands. These things may be hot on Facebook Group sales, but from guests actually visiting? I have my doubts. Everything is being sacrificed to buy Genie+ / ILL.
I don't see how it keeps up. Eventually, there are no more standby seats to sell. Which is why I find Len's recent implications that they are looking at DAS usage again to try and find more ride seats they can potentially sell, so interesting.
Squishy
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Exclusive Genie+ benches in the shade?
doctornick
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1. You don't even have to get rid of the strict timeline to make that improvement (though it can help and is probably already eroding given Mando/Grogu). Just add a bunch of roaming characters and droids. Heck, simply bring back March of the First Order. Put some droids on top of buildings that move all day for kinetics. Add an R2 and 3P0 M&G. Have an alien "band" around that performs SW songs.
It just needs some money invested in entertainment that should have been there from the start.
2. I still think the simply and easy way to monetize is to do dinner and a show (a la Hoo Dee Doo) in the Starcruiser including the transportation from DHS (or the ability to book it independent or the park and drive up if desired). I suspect a bunch of people would do it just to explore the ship a bit and have the experience if the price point wasn't insane.
3. Definitely these things. I think the land really could use an AA continuously running show (think CBJ/Tiki but with Star Wars aliens).
ChrisFL
Premium Member
I think Disney has a bad "E-Ticket only" mentality and they cut everything else and don't open other types of attractions.
Back to Universal, one other note is that it feels much more like it's run by enthusiasts instead of "pencil pushers" as Walt would call them. It feels more about "this would be cool" than just "this will make money". Their tribute stores help a lot in that regard. Highly themed areas that only last for a couple of months but have tons of easter eggs and cool areas within them.
Back to Universal, one other note is that it feels much more like it's run by enthusiasts instead of "pencil pushers" as Walt would call them. It feels more about "this would be cool" than just "this will make money". Their tribute stores help a lot in that regard. Highly themed areas that only last for a couple of months but have tons of easter eggs and cool areas within them.
Rteetz
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I don’t think it’s even just Disney but many of the “fans” too. They expect everything to be this huge new e ticket style ride/attraction. Not everything needs to or should be that.
doctornick
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Hulu is actually profitable and (in isolation) a reasonable purchase to fully own. Whether it made sense for Disney given their cash situation on top of other previous purchases is a different question...
I actually think the Hulu with Live TV has a good value going forward. And I think being able to roll the Hulu general interest content into D+ (in those places like the US where it was not already there under Star) has a good value in making D+ a clear competitor with Netflix at a similar price point (where Netflix has shown they can be profitable). I'm actually really curious how the numbers look for Disney after the most recent price hike for their streaming - I guess we'll find out next week.
Just like everything else at Disney, the big key for D+ is to keep production costs down. They need to figure out how to make their "premium" content for a lower cost so they have more money to make filler content as well. It's not even how much they spend but how inefficiently they spend it at Disney (not getting the "bang for their buck" they need).
mickEblu
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And the other 2 drops right? Haha
Something that has stuck in my head was a relatively low-information WDW guest asked me once why they don’t just build a second castle park in WDW. It’s a completely insane idea that would never be executed but it’s telling that a normal person would observe how much more different it is there. I have commented elsewhere that in my opinion, my last day trip to MK (in… early 2022?) is one of the least pleasant places I have ever spent leisure time. I have only been back for two very brief nights since then. I’m a jaded person who visits the resort a lot more often than average guests because of my proximity to CMs but I have to wonder how the family from Topeka feels about it.