Rumor- WDW to get new monorail trains in near future

[lazyboy97o]

Where does it say specifically this is destined for WDW?

The sheriff told him about this bold new vision.

 

[TubaGeek]

Can someone explain this to me as though I'm 10?

 

[danlb_2000]

Or you just don't know what you are talking about. Maybe try looking up the definition of pneumatic.

As much as I hate to admit it, JT is right. Pneumatic tube systems use air pressure to propel a capsule, hyperloop uses a tube, but the vehicle is propelled by linear induction.

 

[lazyboy97o]

As much as I hate to admit it, JT is right. Pneumatic tube systems use air pressure to propel a capsule, hyperloop uses a tube, but the vehicle is propelled by linear induction.

The whole benefit is created through the vacuum. Removing drag caused by air is exactly what all previous pneumatic transit concepts were addressing.

 

[monothingie]

No. It is a live demonstration. Google it.

It appears it can operate at different speeds. And the capsules can be routed like data capsules for anyone familiar with Cisco.

 

[ford91exploder]

The whole benefit is created through the vacuum. Removing drag caused by air is exactly what all previous pneumatic transit concepts were addressing.

The whole point of the hyper loop system is removing aerodynamic drag for a maglev train. The downside of the hyperloop is you are basically traveling in a hard vacuum similar to space and loss of atmosphere in the cabin is going to be fatal in under 60 seconds just like on a spacecraft

 

[DManRightHere]

Disney utilizes monorail. This tech will make that obsolete. It is a demonstration for the whole world. Welcome to the future.

I don't see Disney needing this tech, the monorail is already efficient, it is just not always reliable.

The major problem I see with this tech is it has to use batteries. If the system is designed for a low cost to make long distance routes at high speed I wonder if that will be an issue.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Three year old thread bump?

 

[jt04]

The whole point of the hyper loop system is removing aerodynamic drag for a maglev train. The downside of the hyperloop is you are basically traveling in a hard vacuum similar to space and loss of atmosphere in the cabin is going to be fatal in under 60 seconds just like on a spacecraft

Incorrect as usual. The Hyperloop is not designed to work nor can it work in a complete vacuum. The tube will have some air as this is what is used to propel the vehicle.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Incorrect as usual. The Hyperloop is not designed to work nor can it work in a complete vacuum. The tube will have some air as this is what is used to propel the vehicle.

You just said its not pneumatic...

 

[jt04]

I don't see Disney needing this tech, the monorail is already efficient, it is just not always reliable.

The major problem I see with this tech is it has to use batteries. If the system is designed for a low cost to make long distance routes at high speed I wonder if that will be an issue.

I think most believe Disney would be perfect for a new comprehensive automated transportation system at WDW. Not a matter of if but when.

 

[NormC]

Incorrect as usual. The Hyperloop is not designed to work nor can it work in a complete vacuum. The tube will have some air as this is what is used to propel the vehicle.

Now you are contradicting yourself. If the air is used to propel then it is pneumatic. I thought it was linear induction motors.

 

[DManRightHere]

I think most believe Disney would be perfect for a new comprehensive automated transportation system at WDW. Not a matter of if but when.

But why would they need this?

 

[jt04]

Now you are contradicting yourself. If the air is used to propel then it is pneumatic. I thought it was linear induction motors.

It is not pneumatic anymore than an airplane is pneumatic. It is a new concept that has never been tried before although it uses both established and new technologies.

 

[jt04]

But why would they need this?

Because it is new and shiny. Daring and bold. Forward thinking and revolutionary. Just like Walt himself.

 

[montyz81]

I disagree with you on nostalgia alone being why they are kept around.

The monorails are FAR more efficient than the buses at moving large amounts of people. Also, they went retro with the DL monorail because that was what the original monorail looked like at DL. The WDW "retro" monorail looks similar to the ones currently in service.

As to the hyper loop tech, this will never be used as a mass transit tech at WDW. The distances are too short. It is a tech meant for point to point long distance transit. Think New York to Orlando in an hour to an hour and a half.

I think it could have been a solid tech to demo at EPCOT, and ya never know, it still may be. "Around the world (showcase) in 80 seconds!"

agreed on all counts for the most part. I would say that the WDW is not as much of a ride as DL so you are correct there. The Mark IV and VI don't just look similar, they look exactly alike. The diff between the two are the seat arrangements, entry exit doors and the size of the overall train. I'm sure the mechanical are improved between IV to VI too. It isn't like DL where htey used the chassis of the old model. They couldn't do that in this case.

It could be used as a mass transit tech from Port Canaveral to the airport to WDW and back again easily.

 

[rle4lunch]

Now you are contradicting yourself. If the air is used to propel then it is pneumatic. I thought it was linear induction motors.

It is, maglev uses alternating polarity to 'pull' the vehicle in one direction or another. pneumatics has nothing to do with anything on this.

 

[montyz81]

For a forum obsessed with the future of Future World, I am amazed at how lacking some are about technology. These are not pneumatic tubes. Quite the opposite.

I stand corrected, I thought when they mentioned vacuum that it would be pneumatic. I didn't realize it was just simply for the removal of air to allow it to go faster.

 

[NormC]

It is, maglev uses alternating polarity to 'pull' the vehicle in one direction or another. pneumatics has nothing to do with anything on this.

Correct. The air has nothing to do with it. Linear induction motors for motion and maglev for levitation.

 

[montyz81]

If WDW were to get new Monorails they would have to take into consideration the Monorail access holes at the Contemporary resort. I read somewhere that they were enlarged to allow the new Mark VI monorails adequate room in 89'. It is still a tight fit. I can't see them remodeling the building again. If they were to make the rumored Mark VIII's round like the Mark VII's they would have to be much larger than the Mark VI's to allow for passenger room. It's a round peg in a square hole kinda thing. Also the DL monorails fit the theme for DL, The monorails at WDW are very generic because they all pass through many different themes, IE many different resorts and parks. I could see the three different monorail lines having there own theme maybe and this would most likely lead to a different shell on the same chassis design. Ultimately the WDW monorails are considered transportation vehicles more than they are entertainment in the eyes of WDW. And they tend to get every last penny out of something when they can. I truly love the monorails and whatever they decide to do with them I'm sure they will do well, just as long as they continue to use the original overhead announcements.

I don't think the monorail design was not considered generic in 1971. I think i recall Bob Gurr saying he designed it after the Lear because if it's futuristic design.