Rumor-Spectro probably isn't coming back

GiveMeTheMusic

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I think you're right, and I think there may be something a little more sinister going on here. (Please put on your tin hat.) TDO seems to be bent on wringing every last penny out of guests before they leave the park, rather than improving or creating attractions that would add attendance. The parades easily take most of the guests out of circulation for at least 90 minutes, then most leave the park right after the fireworks. This means they're not buying stuff in the shops or snacking at the quick service locations for 2+ hours per day. Now add in the labor cost of running the parades, and you get an idea of the true cost to Disney for doing so. Someone probably figured out that they could gain another $5-$10 per guest, per day by phasing out the evening parade. This would also explain why any night time entertainment has been slow to evolve at DAK. That adds up fast.

If that is the case, then they're missing it entirely. No nighttime shows means no one sticks around after dark. DAK could be a profitable dining hub if it had a big night show that have guests a reason to stay late. Impulse shopping increases at night - that's why Main Street stays open for shopping after park closing. A good nighttime show = money.
 

jrh1985

Active Member
As for having MISICI as the only day Event, DL tried that: C!ASP 2009-2010. THANK GOODNESS DL got Soundsational!!!!! I'm not ready to believe WDW would do that. Heck, CADCT was made and opened what a month before MISICI? Don't forget that MK has Boo To You, OUACP Which goes daytime after MVMCP, and the rumors of Steve heading the new Day/Evening/Nighttime (Who knows at this point!)Parade. I say rumors because Steve has only talked about finishing up on TDL's 30th and the new stuff for Dreams. I wish he would post more often! I do trust the people on here.

As for the MSEP/Spectro topic, I'm not happy about Spectro's fate but, I can't tell MESP is falling apart either. Sure things are missing now and then but I've always wondered if they cut a thing so MSEP is out of TS/MS/Hub for the first MM&Y/CTM which isn't good but whatever.

Also, from the same forums that confirmed Spectro's Fate, there has been talk of Wishes' replacement. Some how combing CTM/WOC/Fanti or F!(who knows?!?!?!?)
Here's the info:
Speaking of new shows though, the buzz backstage is that Wishes! is looking at its last year. They're really about to jump on the projection technology used for the Magic, Memories, and You and rumor has it that they're considering using the castle moat as part of the show. Supposedly they're looking at somehow combining MM&Y, Fantillusion, and World of Color as a brand new castle show. As much as I love Wishes!, I agree that its glory days are over and it's time we get something fresh and different.

I meant Fantillusion. However, Fantillusion was developed by the same people behind Fantasmic!, who sort of condensed the show and put it in parade format so I suppose one could argue that they would be combining Fantasmic! too.
Perhaps they're thinking of using lighted floats on the moat (a la the Electrical Water Pageant)? That's the only thing I can think of. Though I don't see how this would be possible because of the bridges connecting the Hub to Tomorrowland and Fantasyland.
I'm simply just repeating what I've been hearing backstage for a while now
Anyone what to chime in from this site?

Call me wierd but I don't live down there(Love to though! Would do it in a heartbeat!)and I'm just not ready to give up on WDC/TDO/WDW/MK when it comes to big entertainment. MK has pleased me too many times to do that!
 

Tip Top Club

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As far as I know that info is way outdated!

We were supposed to get a version of dreams, but that has not come to pass. Wishes is here to stay for now.
 

RSoxNo1

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I'm afraid I am the confirmer of bad news..

Spectro has seen it's last show.. The damage to the floats is EXTENSIVE.. Termites, woodrot, electrical issue, etc.. All related to the hap-hazard storage that the parade was subjected to.

The price tag to rebuilt/replace most EVERYTHING is approx. 2.6 million.. Management has passed, and it's likely that MSEP will have to roll for some time until a new show can be developed and brought on line..

I'm not happy, and I'm not happy to bring this news to you guys...

I can't believe my last viewing of Spectro was.... my last.

:(
Can't they put in some more RFID chips into Spectro, call it part of Next Gen and absorb the cost?
 

Goldenrod

New Member
As a cast member at MK, I have a unique role that allows me to talk to many people and see things that others do not. I can assure you, Spectromagic will be back this spring! Not only has a parade manager confirmed this to me, but entertainment is currently doing rehearsals in the middle of the night.
 

Genie of the Lamp

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As a cast member at MK, I have a unique role that allows me to talk to many people and see things that others do not. I can assure you, Spectromagic will be back this spring! Not only has a parade manager confirmed this to me, but entertainment is currently doing rehearsals in the middle of the night.

So are they going to use the current floats held backstage or are they going to import/produce new floats for Spectro then? If what you say is true, I would imagine at least new floats since other members have stated how bad a shape the current floats are in now.
 

MouseDreaming

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As a cast member at MK, I have a unique role that allows me to talk to many people and see things that others do not. I can assure you, Spectromagic will be back this spring! Not only has a parade manager confirmed this to me, but entertainment is currently doing rehearsals in the middle of the night.
After all this, it seems too good to be true. Oh, but I hope it is!
 

Tip Top Club

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As a cast member at MK, I have a unique role that allows me to talk to many people and see things that others do not. I can assure you, Spectromagic will be back this spring! Not only has a parade manager confirmed this to me, but entertainment is currently doing rehearsals in the middle of the night.

You have been misinformed.
 

jrh1985

Active Member
Just thinking out loud here could the MSEP Alice unit fit in to Spectro either before/in/after the peacock unit? Could MK be marring MSEP and Spectro????? Sorry but it needs to be asked after this weekend, any proof????? January fool??????Timeline?????? What next, new Day Parade coming early??????
 

rodserling27

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As a cast member at MK, I have a unique role that allows me to talk to many people and see things that others do not. I can assure you, Spectromagic will be back this spring! Not only has a parade manager confirmed this to me, but entertainment is currently doing rehearsals in the middle of the night.
Don't get people's hopes up when many of our VERY credible sources have said otherwise. Are we all going to believe this member with one post, one like, that registered today, 15 minutes ago? Not quite how it works around here...
 

bsiev1977

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Don't get people's hopes up when many of our VERY credible sources have said otherwise. Are we all going to believe this member with one post, one like, that registered today, 15 minutes ago? Not quite how it works around here...
Of course we shouldn't believe this person. Just another wannabe Internet big shot, claiming to be an "insider".
 

Genie of the Lamp

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Don't get people's hopes up when many of our VERY credible sources have said otherwise. Are we all going to believe this member with one post, one like, that registered today, 15 minutes ago? Not quite how it works around here...

True we should take it with a grain of salt, but that doesn't mean we should throw this newbie under the bus. Maybe this person knows something we don't. Although more of the high level sources have stated it ain't coming versus the previous one that said it will come back in March. Your right though in that we shouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly.
 

jrh1985

Active Member
No chance. The time and money that would go into bringing it back would only be done for one outcome - a complete return of the parade.
I hear you. I was just wondering if the floats had like one more week or so of life in them and that might explain today's post
 

wdwmagic

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I hear you. I was just wondering if the floats had like one more week or so of life in them and that might explain today's post
It is such a huge undertaking getting something like this back. Not only is it a huge task for the physical floats, but the cast have to be trained, scheduled, rehearsed etc. I would be amazed to see it happen for a limited period. Would love to be wrong though!
 

COProgressFan

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As a cast member at MK, I have a unique role that allows me to talk to many people and see things that others do not. I can assure you, Spectromagic will be back this spring! Not only has a parade manager confirmed this to me, but entertainment is currently doing rehearsals in the middle of the night.

A few small issues...I don't think parade rehearsals usually start until 4 to 6 weeks out, so they wouldn't be happening this soon.

Secondly, if rehearsals were happening overnight, auditions would have been publicized (internally at the very least) and there is no indication that has happened.
 

asianway

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A few small issues...I don't think parade rehearsals usually start until 4 to 6 weeks out, so they wouldn't be happening this soon.

Secondly, if rehearsals were happening overnight, auditions would have been publicized (internally at the very least) and there is no indication that has happened.
There are no Spectro rehearsals-drew81 would have known
 

jrh1985

Active Member
I've actually talked to Mr. Davison numerous times; and he has confirmed that he himself is working on a project for the Walt Disney World Resort.When I spoke to him via Email I asked if there's any major project he's working on after "Happiness Is Here",at the Tokyo Disneyland Resort, and which parks? And he responded, " I have seven projects in production at the moment. So, the answer is yes. And they are in every one of the resorts actually. It is a very busy at the moment!" Sadly he never said if its a new daytime/nighttime parade or a nighttime spectacular.

And I've also found plans of a new daytime parade set to debut February 16, 2-13 at the Magic Kingdom, called "Mickey's Spectacular Parade".
Let me guess on wikapedia??
 

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