RUMOR: Lin Manuel Miranda and Weird Al to Redo Hall of Presidents

[The Grand Inquisitor]

While I “like” your post because — Muppetts! — I seriously don’t want HOP to change. It’s a classic. Granted the opening movie changes every 4 to 8 years but it’s still a homage to real American history.

No I totally agree HOP should not change, but if it had to I would love to see the Muppets.

 

[The Visionary Soul]

You know what the next song is after that one right? Are we about to get Iger’s One Last Time?

Sooner than you think.

 

[Touchdown]

Sooner than you think.

Interesting...

 

[MrPromey]

No I totally agree HOP should not change, but if it had to I would love to see the Muppets.

It's a tough one. In my lifetime, I've never seen that giant theater even close to full. Just the same, it does feel like it would be a shame.

I feel like they painted themselves in a corner with Clinton when they started doing the speech, though.

There seems to be no sign of the current political climate improving regardless of who wins this November* so maybe it really is time.

I guess as long as they keep Mr. Lincoln in some form in Disneyland....


*with people going back and retroactively hating on past presidents, I don't think it's ever going to improve.

 

[WEDway Inc & Company LLC]

Let's just remove any and all Americana from the parks! Main Street USA becomes Mickey Ave, Liberty Square because Muppet Land, and the American Adventure just gets demo'd. With no replacement for years on in.

 

[larryz]

Let's just remove any and all Americana from the parks! Main Street USA becomes Mickey Ave, Liberty Square because Muppet Land, and the American Adventure just gets demo'd. With no replacement for years on in.

I imagine that would trigger some non-violent protests in the parks.

 

[GladToBeHear]

It's a tough one. In my lifetime, I've never seen that giant theater even close to full. Just the same, it does feel like it would be a shame.

I feel like they painted themselves in a corner with Clinton when they started doing the speech, though.

There seems to be no sign of the current political climate improving regardless of who wins this November* so maybe it really is time.

I guess as long as they keep Mr. Lincoln in some form in Disneyland....


*with people going back and retroactively hating on past presidents, I don't think it's ever going to improve.

I don't think it has so much to do with politics for most people. I just think they find the attraction boring. Same goes for Carousel and American Adventure @ Epcot. We typically see about the same number of people for all three.

Even with a redo, I don't think you'd see a big increase in numbers. At least in the long-term.

 

[tirian]

It doesn’t need to happen. Just don’t let any current President give a speech anymore: problem solved.

We seem to be the only country that runs away from history or wields it as a weapon instead of learning from it. With a good, entertaining script, HOP could help people learn.

 

[tirian]

I don't think it has so much to do with politics for most people. I just think they find the attraction boring. Same goes for Carousel and American Adventure @ Epcot. We typically see about the same number of people for all three.

Even with a redo, I don't think you'd see a big increase in numbers. At least in the long-term.

I love the CBJ and its summer/Christmas shows, plus the HOP and American Adventure. I think POTC never should’ve been touched, all the way back to the ‘90s. I miss Horizons and wish Epcot still had updated versions of its classics as well as newer, more thrilling additions. I hate the idea of dumping Splash Mt. to appease a woke crowd that wants to bulldoze every different opinion and will never be satisfied.

...And yet...

I think COP is the most boring attraction on property and wouldn’t mind seeing it completely replaced. Not closed. Not mothballed. Replaced.

Just IMHO.

 

[MrConbon]

It doesn’t need to happen. Just don’t let any current President give a speech anymore: problem solved.

We seem to be the only country that runs away from history or wields it as a weapon instead of learning from it. With a good, entertaining script, HOP could help people learn.

With the America pavilion having The American Adventure, it seems pretty pointless to have an attraction that is essentially the same idea.

 

[tirian]

With the America pavilion having The American Adventure, it seems pretty pointless to have an attraction that is essentially the same idea.

The American Adventure doesn’t include all the presidents with a speech from Abe.

 

[Bocabear]

Agree...they are two completely different attractions... That's like saying the Magic Kingdom has one fairy tale based ride so all the others are unnecessary and basically the same thing.

 

[MrPromey]

It doesn’t need to happen. Just don’t let any current President give a speech anymore: problem solved.

We seem to be the only country that runs away from history or wields it as a weapon instead of learning from it. With a good, entertaining script, HOP could help people learn.

I agree with you but how do they cut this off without it looking like a political statement?

Making this change with the next sitting president is going to look like a political move unless it is that president who opts not to do it.

In a perfect world, they'd be able to get him/her to simply say they felt that while the attraction is a national treasure, it is privately owned and that (s)he does not feel it appropriate to be lending the voice of the leader of our country to something that people must pay admission to have access to so he/she respectfully looks forward to seeing the new update but will not be speaking for it.

That would stop the cycle and shame any future president from considering it, I think.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I agree with you but how do they cut this off without it looking like a political statement?

Making this change with the next sitting president is going to look like a political move unless it is that president who opts not to do it.

In a perfect world, they'd be able to get him/her to simply say they felt that while the attraction is a national treasure, it is privately owned and that (s)he does not feel it appropriate to be lending the voice of the leader of our country to something that people must pay admission to have access to so he/she respectfully looks forward to seeing the new update but will not be speaking for it.

That would stop the cycle and shame any future president from considering it, I think.

The change is something that would require commitment and an announcement before the primaries, ideally at the end of a second term. That way it comes before anyone knows who is even in the running.

 

[WDW Pro]

One of my three original sources informs that all changes to HoP are mothballed. Talks fell through weeks ago (I'm told) and apparently there is now a hold on any future contract negotiations related to attraction refurbishments unless signed off on by Kalogridis and then approved by D'Amaro. Essentially that stops nearly all attraction refurbishments requiring contracted actors, writers, musicians, etc, unless the contract was already signed.

 

[DoleWhipDrea]

One of my three original sources informs that all changes to HoP are mothballed. Talks fell through weeks ago (I'm told) and apparently there is now a hold on any future contract negotiations related to attraction refurbishments unless signed off on by Kalogridis and then approved by D'Amaro. Essentially that stops nearly all attraction refurbishments requiring contracted actors, writers, musicians, etc, unless the contract was already signed.

Forgive me for going slightly off-topic here, but in relation to this, do you know anything about Rock n’ Roller Coaster’s contract with Aerosmith? I remember reading that it was ending soon...

 

[WDW Pro]

Forgive me for going slightly off-topic here, but in relation to this, do you know anything about Rock n’ Roller Coaster’s contract with Aerosmith? I remember reading that it was ending soon...

I'll look into it. Remind me in a day or two.

 

[Haymarket2008]

One of my three original sources informs that all changes to HoP are mothballed. Talks fell through weeks ago (I'm told) and apparently there is now a hold on any future contract negotiations related to attraction refurbishments unless signed off on by Kalogridis and then approved by D'Amaro. Essentially that stops nearly all attraction refurbishments requiring contracted actors, writers, musicians, etc, unless the contract was already signed.

Will this affect the production of Cosmic Rewind and the filming they will have to do regardless of the GotG Vol. 3 filming? I’m assuming contracts have already been signed for that project for a while.

 

[WDW Pro]

Will this affect the production of Cosmic Rewind and the filming they will have to do regardless of the GotG Vol. 3 filming? I’m assuming contracts have already been signed for that project for a while.

Yes, but not how you think. I'll explain more in a future thread.

 

[UNCgolf]

I love the CBJ and its summer/Christmas shows, plus the HOP and American Adventure. I think POTC never should’ve been touched, all the way back to the ‘90s. I miss Horizons and wish Epcot still had updated versions of its classics as well as newer, more thrilling additions. I hate the idea of dumping Splash Mt. to appease a woke crowd that wants to bulldoze every different opinion and will never be satisfied.

...And yet...

I think COP is the most boring attraction on property and wouldn’t mind seeing it completely replaced. Not closed. Not mothballed. Replaced.

Just IMHO.

Boooooo.

Carousel of Progress is one of the 3 or 4 best attractions in the entire Magic Kingdom.