Rumor lightyear update to the buzz actions in the parks.

ImperfectPixie

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Actually this is a stigma in the US that hinders the perspective manby have on animation, as simply a child's art form, which it is not. Disney animation, for the most part, is "all ages." Are there films made that would appeal mostly to children? Yes. However this stigma that animation is just for kids is simply not true. Recently, Lord & Miller had a great piece in Variety I believe that called out this widespread stigma on animation as an art form just for kids, which it is 100% not. So while examining animated films we do need to take into account that they are created with the full spectrum of age in mind (at least ones that would bear a G or PG rating).

Now whether or not the content speaks to you in a way that you'd want to spend your hard earned money to experience it is another matter, and is very much "to each his/her own" 100%

But we need to move away from the infantilization of animation as an art form in the US.
Yep. Anime would like to have a word with those who think animation is just for kids. Some of which has content that is adults-only.
 

GimpYancIent

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You are really determined that the public hates the idea of this movie, aren’t you? I realize that I potentially made myself a joke by bringing up the fan reaction, but my own friends aren’t the only excitement I’ve seen. I do read articles and such from other (reputable) sources; I don’t live in a fangirl bubble. No, not everyone will be interested, but that’s true of even the biggest blockbusters. (I, for one, couldn’t care less about Star Wars and Marvel movies.)

Lightyear’s teaser trailer broke records with over 83 million views on YouTube within 24 hours, then went on to trend globally on Twitter. I’m not quite sure how that’s “meh.” I don’t really care if the ride gets updated or not; after a dismal WDW trip this past December, my family and I have reached the breaking point with what’s going on with the parks, like so many others. I just wish people would let movies come out before declaring they’re terrible or a flop.
I am not determining anything for the public. "The public" can make their own determinations. Views on You Tube are an indicator of nothing as people routinely view pretty much anything just to see what it is and as fast as you clap your hands move on to view something else. Flop? no, as with most Disney animations it will probably break even then fade away. There are some Disney productions that exceed expectations, not as many as Disney would like.
 

JessieLightyear

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I am not determining anything for the public. "The public" can make their own determinations. Views on You Tube are an indicator of nothing as people routinely view pretty much anything just to see what it is and as fast as you clap your hands move on to view something else. Flop? no, as with most Disney animations it will probably break even then fade away. There are some Disney productions that exceed expectations, not as many as Disney would like.
Lol, no matter what, you won’t even consider the slightest chance that those who grew up with Buzz Lightyear for the past 25+ years - both longtime fans and just casual/curious ones - might allow this movie to succeed even a little bit. Toy Story hasn’t “faded away” in nearly three decades - Toy Story 4 broke box office records, even though it was pretty controversial (budget $200M, box office $1.073B, not exactly barely breaking even). But I’m done here, because I know there’s no point in arguing with negativity on the internet.
 
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doctornick

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OK! people ponder this. "Light Year" teaser / trailer comes out and though some people get excited over all a MEH reaction by the general public. To raise interest a potentially controversial brief scene is added, after some spirited (actually abrasive) debate the overall general public is still MEH about this movie / animation. Disney does not make adaptations in its parks for MEH. Disney will squeeze what monetary benefits it can out of it and then toss it on a shelf to collect dust.

I'm not really sure your talking about the same film. I'd seen a lot of interest/excitement for Lightyear. I'd be quite surprised if it doesn't do very well as the box office (pending of course the standard disclaimers of a new wave of COVID/restrictions, etc)
 

Ghost93

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I'm 100% on board for LGBTQ representation in Disney movies, but I do think it was kind of stupid from a business standpoint to advertise the lesbian kiss in Lightyear before the movie came out. If the goal is for gay children who have homophobic parents to be able to feel seen...that plan is thrown out the window since the homophobic parents will now actively boycott the movie and deprive their children of the opportunity to see the representation. And on the other side of the spectrum, it overhypes the scene for the LGBTQ community and their allies. The scene will now have to live up to unrealistically high standards of lesbian representation whereas it may have come off as a nice surprise had there not been an article about it in advance.

Regardless of whether the controversy has an impact on the box office or not, I think it would be wise of Disney to update the ride simply to keep it from feeling stale. It's been around for many years and I'm sure technological improvements could be made. For what it's worth, I much prefer the Buzz Lightyear shooting ride to Toy Story Mania. I think I'm in the minority on that though.
 

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So we've all agreed that unscrupulous has been duped again and this attraction overlay is not in the works, yes?
Not necessarily. The "rumor" may have been bogus but the loosely hinted at idea that they would somehow overlay the new Lightyear movie onto the older attraction doesn't exactly sound far-fetched or improbable. I think it could easily still happen. Probably why he ran with it.
 
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Unbanshee

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Not necessarily. The "rumor" may have been bogus but the losely hinted at idea that they would overlay the new Lightyear movie onto the older Lightyear attraction doesn't sound far-fetched or improbable.

Haha, seriously?! I have a few loosely hinted ideas that I'm willing to throw around for every attraction on property. That doesn't mean that it is in the works
 

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Haha, seriously?! I have a few loosely hinted ideas that I'm willing to throw around for every attraction on property. That doesn't mean that it is in the works.
Are you talking generalities or finites? I could post a "rumor" that a light bulb is being changed and it'd be probable. The idea that Disney would update an attraction with a newer IP? Probable. You're acting like the rumor has no merit just because it's made up. The two are not mutually exclusive. I certainly think it's likely. You don't?
 

wdwmagic

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Are you talking generalities or finites? I could post a "rumor" that a light bulb is being changed and it'd be probable. The idea that Disney would update an attraction with a newer IP? Probable. You're acting like the rumor has no merit just because it's made up. The two are not mutually exclusive. I certainly think it's likely. You don't?
While it isn't out of the question, there are far more pressing problems in Tomorrowland than doing an overlay on Buzz. I think (and hope), those are addressed first.
 

HauntedPirate

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Let's just say that TDO has bigger things to focus on than Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin. This rumor was made up, and Clickbait ran with it. While someone within WDI probably has had a few ideas about it, they are not going to see the light of day anytime soon.
 

ToTBellHop

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While it isn't out of the question, there are far more pressing problems in Tomorrowland than doing an overlay on Buzz. I think (and hope), those are addressed first.
This is the same company as the one that redid the redone Paradise Pier into Pixar Pier and turned DCA's ToT into GotG:MB. Those areas weren't exactly DCA's most pressing issues.

After they give Splash Mountain the remodel no one asked for, I'm sure they will turn their sights on turning Haunted Mansion into the Encanto house.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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While it isn't out of the question, there are far more pressing problems in Tomorrowland than doing an overlay on Buzz. I think (and hope), those are addressed first.
Please let it be this....
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HauntedPirate

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This is the same company as the one that redid the redone Paradise Pier into Pixar Pier and turned DCA's ToT into GotG:MB. Those areas weren't exactly DCA's most pressing issues.

After they give Splash Mountain the remodel no one asked for, I'm sure they will turn their sights on turning Haunted Mansion into the Encanto house.

We can only hope that someone's ego will be appeased by adding Tron, GotG, and destroying renovating Epcot.
 

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Even that is at least working as intended. Meanwhile, Stitch sits vacant, the Carousel of Progress desperately needs an update to the final scene, Space Mountain needs major maintenance, and the visual overhaul of the land to move away from the 90s Raygun Gothic look was left half finished.
Not to mention the Monsters Inc. attraction that fits the land about as well as princess Tiana in Frontierland.
 

James Alucobond

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Not to mention the Monsters Inc. attraction that fits the land about as well as princess Tiana in Frontierland.
Yes, but again, functioning and absorbing crowds, at least. Other things are either broken or near their breaking point. Order of operations should definitely be 1) replacing Stitch, 2) refurbishing rides that actually require mechanical repair, 3) completing the theming of the land itself so that it actually matters whether or not rides fit, and (finally) 4) reworking or re-theming otherwise fully functional attractions to better fit the land.
 

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Yes, but again, functioning and absorbing crowds, at least. Other things are either broken or near their breaking point. Order of operations should definitely be 1) replacing Stitch, 2) refurbishing rides that actually require mechanical repair, 3) completing the theming of the land itself so that it actually matters whether or not rides fit, and (finally) 4) reworking or re-theming otherwise fully functional attractions to better fit the land.
I wish that were modern Disney's modus operandi.
 

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