Rumor: Disney World Indiana Jones Show Closing To Make Room For Star Wars

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
As I have said, I am usually way ahead of the curve. .
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Mike730

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As much as I like the actual lake, I think it makes more sense for them to cannibalize all of Echo Lake rather than bits of both Echo Lake and Streets of America. The Star Tours-SoA border is already pretty established, so I don't really see them moving into SoA, but Star Wars Land wouldn't be very grand without the land that the lake is on.

As for as the battle coaster... If built, it would probably be the best theme park attraction of all time. Like mind-blowingly amazing. Are they willing to pay for that? Is it even a consideration? I'm not holding my breath...

And I'm in the camp that would prefer the Millennium Falcon as a stand alone walk-through, maybe a post-ride attraction type of thing. I could have stayed in the queue of FJ for an hour, but I had to keep up with the line. It would have been nice to just take in the detail.

I wouldn't mind seeing all of the Backlot and LMA gone if it meant we got a E or D ticket pixar attraction.Perhaps they'll take it as an opportunity to add some cohesiveness to the park as a whole.
 

doctornick

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As much as I like the actual lake, I think it makes more sense for them to cannibalize all of Echo Lake rather than bits of both Echo Lake and Streets of America. The Star Tours-SoA border is already pretty established, so I don't really see them moving into SoA, but Star Wars Land wouldn't be very grand without the land that the lake is on.

I don't agree. It's easy to leave the lake and have the restaurants be reassigned to Hollywood Blvd as their "land". Then the AIE/Sounds Dangerous buildings + IJ stunt show footprint + Backlot Express is used for Star Wars -- there's actually could be quite a good demarcation between the restaurants/lake and the new Star Wars area.

For more room, rather than use SoA, Star Wars could certainly use the current backstage buildings between IJ/Backlot Express/Star Tours, even going into the parking lot if needed. And if the plans for a parking lot road off of Victory Lane get done, then can even use the "old" access road off of World Drive for land.
 

danlb_2000

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As much as I like the actual lake, I think it makes more sense for them to cannibalize all of Echo Lake rather than bits of both Echo Lake and Streets of America. The Star Tours-SoA border is already pretty established, so I don't really see them moving into SoA, but Star Wars Land wouldn't be very grand without the land that the lake is on.

As for as the battle coaster... If built, it would probably be the best theme park attraction of all time. Like mind-blowingly amazing. Are they willing to pay for that? Is it even a consideration? I'm not holding my breath...

And I'm in the camp that would prefer the Millennium Falcon as a stand alone walk-through, maybe a post-ride attraction type of thing. I could have stayed in the queue of FJ for an hour, but I had to keep up with the line. It would have been nice to just take in the detail.

I wouldn't mind seeing all of the Backlot and LMA gone if it meant we got a E or D ticket pixar attraction.Perhaps they'll take it as an opportunity to add some cohesiveness to the park as a whole.

Not only would they have to pay to build the battle coaster ride they would have to pay to license the patent.
 

cw1982

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As much as I like the actual lake, I think it makes more sense for them to cannibalize all of Echo Lake rather than bits of both Echo Lake and Streets of America. The Star Tours-SoA border is already pretty established, so I don't really see them moving into SoA, but Star Wars Land wouldn't be very grand without the land that the lake is on.

As for as the battle coaster... If built, it would probably be the best theme park attraction of all time. Like mind-blowingly amazing. Are they willing to pay for that? Is it even a consideration? I'm not holding my breath...

And I'm in the camp that would prefer the Millennium Falcon as a stand alone walk-through, maybe a post-ride attraction type of thing. I could have stayed in the queue of FJ for an hour, but I had to keep up with the line. It would have been nice to just take in the detail.

I wouldn't mind seeing all of the Backlot and LMA gone if it meant we got a E or D ticket pixar attraction.Perhaps they'll take it as an opportunity to add some cohesiveness to the park as a whole.

Compared to everything that SWL is rumored to have in its plans, does the lake even begin to make a dent in the amount of space needed for all that? I know it's all speculation at this point, but most people seem to think SWL would add two more attractions, at the very least, and I don't remember the lake being all that big. I think if they did fill in the lake, it would have to be only part of the changes coming to the rest of the park.
 

Mike730

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Compared to everything that SWL is rumored to have in its plans, does the lake even begin to make a dent in the amount of space needed for all that? I know it's all speculation at this point, but most people seem to think SWL would add two more attractions, at the very least, and I don't remember the lake being all that big. I think if they did fill in the lake, it would have to be only part of the changes coming to the rest of the park.
Yeah. It's not really that big. I just think if they left it they would have to do some really intense place making to not make the transition from 50's Hollywood to Sci FI so jarring. It's enough space for at least one attraction or large restaurant and I think without a large flat lake there it would be easier to make a smooth transition. Can you imagine standing on front of Hollywood and Vine and seeing Storm troopers and the Millenium Falcon across the lake?
EDIT: Especially if AIE is really slated for Star Wars use.
 
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cw1982

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Yeah. It's not really that big. I just think if they left it they would have to do some really intense place making to not make the transition from 50's Hollywood to Sci FI so jarring. It's enough space for at least one attraction or large restaurant and I think without a large flat lake there it would be easier to make a smooth transition. Can you imagine standing on front of Hollywood and Vine and seeing Storm troopers and the Millenium Falcon across the lake?
EDIT: Especially of AIE is really slated for Star Wars use.

Perhaps, but I hate the idea (for my own selfish reasons) lol. I like that lake.
 

wdisney9000

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Another reason I think its good news if the Lake is going, with that much land there has to be something substantial going in.....theoretically...

Wouldnt it be a rather abrupt transition going from Hollywood Blvd directly into Star Wars Land where Echo LAke is? I love how Star Tours is tucked away behind Commissary Lane and SoA. Its not all "in your face", it feels secluded back there but also has a commanding presence with the AT-ATs towering over you. I realize HS is not MK and transition from land to land may not be as necessary but is probly considered.
 

psherman42

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Wouldnt it be a rather abrupt transition going from Hollywood Blvd directly into Star Wars Land where Echo LAke is? I love how Star Tours is tucked away behind Commissary Lane and SoA. Its not all "in your face", it feels secluded back there but also has a commanding presence with the AT-ATs towering over you. I realize HS is not MK and transition from land to land may not be as necessary but is probly considered.
Exactly what I was thinking. It would feel weird to go from Hollywood Blvd directly to Star Wars...

ABC Commissary is where I worked on my first CP so that place holds a very special place in my heart, but I would totally be ok with Commissary Lane being used for Star Wars. I may be gutted if it was ever announced to be closing to be rethemed and demand to be there the last day it's open but..I think I'd get over it if Disney did something amazing with Star Wars. Of course, that would also mean something would need to happen to Sci Fi too..
 

Mike730

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I don't agree. It's easy to leave the lake and have the restaurants be reassigned to Hollywood Blvd as their "land". Then the AIE/Sounds Dangerous buildings + IJ stunt show footprint + Backlot Express is used for Star Wars -- there's actually could be quite a good demarcation between the restaurants/lake and the new Star Wars area.

For more room, rather than use SoA, Star Wars could certainly use the current backstage buildings between IJ/Backlot Express/Star Tours, even going into the parking lot if needed. And if the plans for a parking lot road off of Victory Lane get done, then can even use the "old" access road off of World Drive for land.

To each his own. I wouldn't be surprised if they took that route. I just cant see the lake as a good boundary. That's the whole reason IoA has "sightline issues". This all really doesn't matter if they don't care about that sightlines. That was my main point I guess. That and that I think they would choose Echo Lake over SoA.
I can say with decent certainty that they won't expand into the parking area though. At least recently, they do everything they can to stay within the boundaries of already established roads and utilities. Look at FLE and Avatarland. That's why Fantasyland is a bit cramped in the back. They didn't want to move the backstage access roads, etc. Plus, At DHS I'm pretty sure those are cast services buildings and cast parking. They'll probably have to accommodate more cast members due to the expansion in the first place and it's not like DHS has an abundance of parking.
 
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Kman101

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Well, there had been talk of rerouting that entrance road in the past, or something like that, but it wouldn't have been until after Disney Springs, although someone else with more knowledge could probably explain it better. I agree though they never seem to want to actually do that, so ...
 

Mike730

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Wouldnt it be a rather abrupt transition going from Hollywood Blvd directly into Star Wars Land where Echo LAke is? I love how Star Tours is tucked away behind Commissary Lane and SoA. Its not all "in your face", it feels secluded back there but also has a commanding presence with the AT-ATs towering over you. I realize HS is not MK and transition from land to land may not be as necessary but is probly considered.
Exactly what I was thinking. It would feel weird to go from Hollywood Blvd directly to Star Wars...

ABC Commissary is where I worked on my first CP so that place holds a very special place in my heart, but I would totally be ok with Commissary Lane being used for Star Wars. I may be gutted if it was ever announced to be closing to be rethemed and demand to be there the last day it's open but..I think I'd get over it if Disney did something amazing with Star Wars. Of course, that would also mean something would need to happen to Sci Fi too..

Yeah. It's not really that big. I just think if they left it they would have to do some really intense place making to not make the transition from 50's Hollywood to Sci FI so jarring. It's enough space for at least one attraction or large restaurant and I think without a large flat lake there it would be easier to make a smooth transition. Can you imagine standing on front of Hollywood and Vine and seeing Storm troopers and the Millenium Falcon across the lake?
EDIT: Especially if AIE is really slated for Star Wars use.

If you take a look at the bolded above that I stated before, my main point was that the area of the current lakefront by the restaurants could be used for such a transition, i.e. buildings, path changes, or otherwise that fit the theme to create a smooth change, rather than having to 'shield' the entire Star Wars land from the Echo Lake area. This is all speculation based on whether or not they care about theme separation like they do in MK and AK, though.

A spinner, a coaster, a full sized millennium falcon, a speederbike ride, All have pretty substantial height requirements and would likely be seen from the lake area. If they left the lake, walking around it you could look to one side and see Star Wars popping up everywhere (not to mention the noise it will probably bring) and look to the other side and see.... a dockside diner, a dinosaur, buildings from the 50's... IF they cared about that, they'd have to take up land for visual blockers or theming around the lake in what could be more area for the new Star Wars Land. My thought process was that it would be easier to do one transition by 50's Prime Time than to worry about all that mumbo jumbo around the lake. And they would gain the land in the process.

Recently, the additions have been all about place making. I'd have a hard time believing they wouldn't do they're best to make you feel like your really in the Star Wars universe, so I would assume they want to make this an isolated land without open edges to other area of the park. And if you ask me, Echo lake would be a pretty big 'open edge'. I'm not trying to take the lake from you! Or say that they should or will do this! I'm just saying that, to me, it makes sense this way.

Also, NO NOT SCI FI! (I mean I guess it sort of fits....)
 

TeriofTerror

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I have read all the sites this week that talked about Indy Closing and neither of the sites are credible. There is an unofficial Disney Dining site that pretty much copy and pasted the article listed here, but then added a few other things about Cars Land also being included and will all be completed by 2018.

We shouldn't believe anything until WDMAGIC reports it.
I agree wholeheartedly. Even when that site (Disney Dining) posts actual, you know, news, it's generally quite literally days after it gets posted here (or even at Touring Plans, the DIS, ITM, or Stitch Kingdom for that matter). It's obvious that their only sources are those they find on the internet. Not that there's anything wrong with that (as that's obviously where I get my info), but the huge lag in time between when news first hits credible sources on the 'net and when they finally report it makes it hard to take them seriously - as does their frequent mistakes in spelling and grammar. I give them points for trying, but can in no way give any credence to their posts.
 
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