'rude' or 'ignorant'......that is the question.

[Victaman]

That's what I implied.
I mind my own business in a public washroom, but have observed that many more men leave the facilities without washing their hands than the men who do.
BTW, I am a hand washer.

Agreed. Also, to any of the men I see who use the restroom and then rinse your hands in cold water real quickly without using soap, you're part of the problem too. No point in doing that if you're not going to use soap.

I'm not all the way through the responses yet, but I am curious, to the OP, did you tell the employees what happened so they could clean the water tank?

 

[jaklgreen]

My post about being curt was to give credence to the OPs argument that guest behavior will change as prices continue to rise sharply. In my case, I noticed that my interactions with CMs on specific topics are shorter than they used to be. This is a pretty mild change in response, but a change nonetheless. If you apply my case to a person that is naturally more aggressive or typically rude, I would expect their behavioral changes to be less mild than my own. Not saying I condone aggressive behavior or rudeness just making an observation based on typical human behavior.

I think that a person is either the type to use higher prices as an excuse for bad behavior, or you are not. Not everyone has this kind of reaction, and it certainly is not normal, or something that we should just dismiss as a "natural consequence" of higher prices. Everyone has to decide their limit. If it is getting too expensive for you that any little thing will cause you to exhibit bad behavior, then it is probably time to do something else. Nobody is perfect and everyone does have bad days, but we all need to try to keep things in perspective. I am thrilled to be at WDW. I have not experienced rude cast members because I choose to be extra nice to them. I know they are just doing their job.

 

[jaklgreen]

Has anybody noticed what the people are carrying when they don't wash their hands. I know at the airport sometimes I might not do it, as I'm lugging around a lot of luggage, and don't want to put it down on the dirty ground, or losing it, and just generally want to get in and out quickly. But I try to be as minimalist as possible at parks and not lug bags around.

Are the people who don't wash their hands carrying around a lot of bags and swag? Or is there just no excuse for them doing what they do (or not doing it)?

I am gonna go with the " there is no excuse" route. I have washed my hands holding a baby. There is always a way. Put that bag between your thighs and wash your hands. Better yet, carry only a backpack when you travel.

 

[RustySpork]

I am gonna go with the " there is no excuse" route. I have washed my hands holding a baby. There is always a way. Put that bag between your thighs and wash your hands. Better yet, carry only a backpack when you travel.

Why not just set the baby on the floor? Just corral them with the bag so they can only crawl a short distance, but not enough to get dirty.

Spoiler

/s!

 

[TwilightZone]

I know some people who do this because they feel it's superior to washing your hands (used to see it at work a lot), but there was an FDA report a few years ago that said there's nothing to show it as being any more effective than common hand washing with soap. There was also concern that the sanitizers may do more harm than good in the long run. Not sure about any of the science behind it, but the people I know that are fanatical hand sanitizer users also seem to always be sick. So, it's good old soap and water for us.

I found the exact opposite in my experiences.
But then again, my story has so many sick twist and turns that I'm afraid I will never fully know if it was the sinks being cold and having rarely any soap was fault in my worst flu ever.

 

[Paper straw fan]

I don’t think there’s any direct correlation between ticket prices and poor behavior. If anything it’s probably a deterrent, as most wouldn’t want to spend that kind of money just to potentially get booted from the park. I know the local state fair here stopped having free admission days to try and keep out undesirables.

There’s just some people that either have no filter any more for their behavior, or never had one. Sometimes I see people who use parenthood as their excuse for it (see that odd Facebook post someone posted here recently) I even have people I know who seem to have lost all sense of self awareness, people who have high paying jobs, families and the whole bit, but who tend to act like they are the only person on earth, 24/7.

There isn’t one particular thing to blame for this though. Most of my complaints about people at the parks are in essence about this- people who act as if their needs are more important than everyone else’s at parks (or wherever) the line cutters, the “blockade the FP entrance because the CM won’t take their coupon for 10% off an oil change as FOP fast passes for my family of 11” parents letting their kids do finger painting with ketchup and mustard on cafeteria tables, etc.

Luckily for people staying on site, most of these people are kept at just 2 resorts (Saratoga and AS Sports) so it’s easy to avoid them after park hours. Also they eat at Whispering Canyon and complain about being given a lot of ketchup.

 

[networkpro]

.You may want to evaluate your actions with how you speak to others before bearing judgment with respect to curtness or more specifically in your case rudeness.

I'd hazard to say you are not from the South. Every cast member deserves respect which extends to cordial interaction, its just the decent thing to do as they are doing their jobs and are humans, not your personal kick toy. Have a complaint? That's what guest relations is designed to handle. Other guests behaving badly is not a Disney induced problem.

 

[DuckTalesWooHoo1987]

Also in contention: "Jerry, this is Frank Constanza. Steinbrenner is here. George is dead! Call me back."

My personal favorite Seinfeld line might be "NO SOUP FOR YOU! COME BACK ONE YEAR!" LOL!!! I actually met the guy that played the Soup Nazi and he was incredibly nice and down to earth and we chatted for a pretty good while.

 

[Trackmaster]

I am gonna go with the " there is no excuse" route. I have washed my hands holding a baby. There is always a way. Put that bag between your thighs and wash your hands. Better yet, carry only a backpack when you travel.

Well OK, if being stopped by the TSA, missing your flight, and being put on the no fly list for leaving an unattended bag is "no big deal for you" then OK. I know that's a bit of an unrealistic worry, but a more realistic worry is that a lot of bags tend to look the same, and people tend to be pretty careless when they grab their bags. Its no fun and not smart to be in situations where you're chasing people down in the airport to get your bag returned. Chasing after somebody at the airport and screaming is a more realistic way to get interviewed by the TSA. The smart play is to clutch onto your bags for deal life at all times at the airport.

 

[BoarderPhreak]

I would've said something on the spot. But that's just me.

 

[RustySpork]

I would've said something on the spot. But that's just me.

This along with notifying cast immediately so it can be sanitized.

 

[jaklgreen]

Well OK, if being stopped by the TSA, missing your flight, and being put on the no fly list for leaving an unattended bag is "no big deal for you" then OK. I know that's a bit of an unrealistic worry, but a more realistic worry is that a lot of bags tend to look the same, and people tend to be pretty careless when they grab their bags. Its no fun and not smart to be in situations where you're chasing people down in the airport to get your bag returned. Chasing after somebody at the airport and screaming is a more realistic way to get interviewed by the TSA. The smart play is to clutch onto your bags for deal life at all times at the airport.

I don't even know what you are talking about. How does washing your hands in the restroom equate to an unattended bag? If you have a bag, like almost every single other person in the airport does, figure out a way to still wash your hands. IDK, maybe put the bag over your shoulder, between your legs, on the shelf that most restrooms have that are just for bags. This has never been an issue.

 

[Oddysey]

I'd hazard to say you are not from the South. Every cast member deserves respect which extends to cordial interaction, its just the decent thing to do as they are doing their jobs and are humans, not your personal kick toy. Have a complaint? That's what guest relations is designed to handle. Other guests behaving badly is not a Disney induced problem.

Lots of false assessments in this thread. I am from the south (hence 15 year passholder), and being from the south I didn’t realize the word “no” sometimes followed by “thank you” is so offensive. Although I suspect that to people who have not been told “no” often it may be offensive.

I have probably taken 40 to 50 surveys over the years on Disney property, and feel I have done my cordial duty. Just don’t feel like wasting time taking surveys anymore. In fact, I don’t like wasting time on property at all considering the expense.

I eat at Disney often, strike up conversations with the waiter/waitress and tip well. I may even strike up a conversation with a cast member who is working the line of an attraction I am waiting to experience. I don’t walk around using them as “my kick toy” as you would say.

Also, to be clear for the 2nd or 3rd time I am not condoning what the guy sticking his hand in the jar did. A guy like that goes to such lengths may have acted the same way with free admission. There is simply no way to know without asking him or reading his mind. I was trying to make a broader point regarding guest behavior in relation to rising cost. Although I admit I probably chose the wrong thread to discuss said guest behavior.

That said, we have had post saying they would have used violence against the guy who wrongly stuck his hands in the water jug, and I have somehow become the poster child for rudeness because I say “no” to surveys and don’t like areas of the park being roped off before park closing. BTW, my response to being redirected from the roped off area in my original example was a short “ok.”

But I digress. Let’s call for violence and continue name calling/denigrating the guy who stuck his hand water jar. That is far more civil than the way I treat surveyors in Disney. At this juncture I suppose my example of increasing cost on products and services can affect consumer expectations and behavior has been entirely lost. Enjoy as I am off to another thread to find out the new and exciting things coming to my once favorite park.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Place: Trolley Car Cafe, Hollywood Studios
Date: Feb 22
Principals: unknown male and me


After dressing up my Starbucks coffee with cream and sugar I waited for my turn to fill a paper cup with water from the self service glass water tank which is positioned at the same prep area.

Just when I was about to get some water a man jumped in with 3 smaller sized tumblers, cutting in front of me.
Normally I have something to say here but (1) I'm holding my 15 month baby girl with one arm and (2) he was clearly somebody who could readily wipe the floor with me if things turned terrible.

He then took off the water tank lid and dipped one of his 3 tumblers inside to get ice....while doing it I saw his wrist and hand went into the water supply (a clear glass water tank). His wrist came out dripping, too. He then filled 2 tumblers and a partial 3rd at the tap before the water supply was depleted......he left nothing.

After committing the 3 sins below,
A) Cutting in line
B) Dunked hand in water
C) Monopolized the very limited water,

he noticed that I was watching him and then he offered "oh, you have a baby....would you like some of mine(water)?"

Of course I told him that I would just wait for the staff to refill the tank.

Is he a wipe or just oblivious?
I lean towards oblivious.

Maybe hes both lol. Rude to cut and do that, and oblivious to think that he is not contaminating that water. People like this cause norovirus! I wish the magic kingdom was treated like a cruise ship (yes I know you hear about illness on ships but trust me, plenty more norovirus going around disney too. Anyway, I piggyback on this with another gross group.. people at disney and everywhere else that think refilling your water bottle by holding it directly against the spout of whatever machine is dispensing, is perfectly ok. Its not...again gross

 

[Club Cooloholic]

So you're saying that because things at WDW aren't the same as they were say, 10-15 years ago, you feel that you have the right to be curt with CM's? Talk about entitlement...YOU are part of the problem, not the solution. Maybe one step on the evolutionary ladder higher than the idiot who stuck his arm in the water jug. If you're looking for absolution or sympathy or justification, sorry, you get NONE from me.

The dude was just being honest. We have seen it go both ways, the CMs are not all as greatbas they were 15 years ago. I remember my last trio to DL we needed another autograph book. Went into the goft shop on main and I looked around a little but coukd only find really pink princess type ones that were more expensive and not what my son had in mind. I asked a CM if they had any other kinds and he flatly said no, and then continued to talk to another CM. I spent a few more mins milling around of course found the one thatbyou typically see everyone using. I went over to the CM who jad sone no others were available and showed him what I found, and he just made a face and said oh and kept talking. I realize he doesn't need to know where ecerything is, but I git the impression he was annoyed to be asked to help someone.

 

[RustySpork]

True......
My friends who were in Cast Management blame the Union..............
That'w why they quit.

It's always easier to blame someone/something else than it is to take responsibility.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

True......
My friends who were in Cast Management blame the Union..............
That'w why they quit.

Well, how does that relate to this? If I am right, shop cast members are not part of the Union. The rides ran well and the parks were clean though and those guys are in the union

 

[bigrigross]

I found the exact opposite in my experiences.
But then again, my story has so many sick twist and turns that I'm afraid I will never fully know if it was the sinks being cold and having rarely any soap was fault in my worst flu ever.

Water temp does nothing for bacteria on the hands. Even with a hot water heater cranked up to 120F/48C, its not hot enough to do anything with the bacteria. Soap ,length, and scrubbing is what kills germs on your hands. For hot water to be useful, it would need to be 180F/82C and wash your hands for 5 minutes which would definately kill the germs, and your skin.

Also, the OP's story is the very reason Disney needs to install more water fountains and all of them need the water bottle fill attachment. There is zero reason the most popular park in this country does not have them everywhere. When I went to the St Louis Zoo 4 years ago, they were everywhere there. Its almost inexcusable at this point.

 

[networkpro]

Lots of false assessments in this thread. I am from the south (hence 15 year passholder), and being from the south I didn’t realize the word “no” sometimes followed by “thank you” is so offensive.

Thank you for identifying yourself for my ignore list.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Also, the OP's story is the very reason Disney needs to install more water fountains and all of them need the water bottle fill attachment. There is zero reason the most popular park in this country does not have them everywhere. When I went to the St Louis Zoo 4 years ago, they were everywhere there. Its almost inexcusable at this point.

Oh there is a reason $$$$