News Rogers the Musical coming to the Hyperion Theater

mickEblu

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This is just the first step in Avengers Campus expanding into Hollywoodland. I’d rather sacrifice Hyperion than the Animation Building. I love that lobby. I still want Animation Building Lobby: The Ride. Somewhere to catch all the old school Disney feels from the comfort of your own ride vehicle as opposed to having to camp out for a spectacular for hours. Im thinking something like Circle Vision meets Soarin meets Philharmagic 2.0.
 

DavidDL

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I'm not expecting a Broadway production but it'll probably be at least 30 minutes- it takes too long to seat the theater and empty the theater to have it be 15 minutes.

Also a good point.

Edit: Fantasmic! is just under half an hour so even if we were to be conservative with the show estimate, there is still a lot that can happen in that amount of time. Provided they do a good job.
 

Californian Elitist

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The fact Disney has to come up with something here gives me hope. I liked the Frozen show- it was perfectly fine but it was basically the movie on stage. Aladdin was good, and the Genie added some rewatchability, but again, Aladdin on stage.

Other then a few clips from the Hawkeye show Disney doesn't have something to copy here. They have to develop the story, songs, etc. from scratch.

This could be the most unique thing we've gotten from DL Entertainment in a while.
*ding* *ding* *ding*

Exactly.
 

EPCOTCenterLover

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Other than the main street of Hollywoodland, I wish they'd let Avengers Campus take it all over. Those phony backdrops of DCA 1.0 are horrible. But make it great- not just an expansion of the campus.
 

Disney Irish

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Those “costumes” aren’t something I would say are real Broadway material. Those are borderline cosplay costumes. It’s clearly meant to be a joke or comical in some way.

I’m not disrespecting the people who worked on it, but it clearly isn’t to the standard of “real” broadway shows.

EDIT: You can argue yes, it was staged as a Broadway production but I don’t know how it can be taken seriously. Who knows though maybe it turns out amazing? I have my doubts, but it’s possible.
It was a joke. In the context of the show it was a joke, and the fact that they worked so hard on it is exactly what made it a successful joke.

You may call it a "joke" as your opinion, but it was intended to be a real Broadway show within the context of the show. And again it was Feige who decided to go all out on it with a real Broadway director, a real theater cast, real stage and sets, real costumes, etc -

 

No Name

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You may call it a "joke" as your opinion, but it was intended to be a real Broadway show within the context of the show. And again it was Feige who decided to go all out on it with a real Broadway director, a real theater cast, real stage and sets, real costumes, etc -

All of that is true and yet that is precisely the setup of the joke. Hawkeye walks out of the theater because of how ridiculous it is.
 

Disney Irish

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All of that is true and yet that is precisely the setup of the joke. Hawkeye walks out of the theater because of how ridiculous it is.
Nope, Clint walks out because of his PTSD regarding Natasha's death. He was not over her death, and seeing her portrayed up on stage clearly affected him, that is why he walked out.
 

Consumer

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How the hell is this an argument? Rogers was put in the show because it’s funny and ridiculous. It’s not supposed to be serious. That’s all egg is saying.
 

No Name

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Nope, Clint walks out because of his PTSD regarding Natasha's death. He was not over her death, and seeing her portrayed up on stage clearly affected him, that is why he walked out.
Yeah, because what bothers him is how absurdly and aloofly the show treats a real world event that killed so many people. That’s the joke. I don’t think aloofly is a word but you get the point. Or you don’t!
 

waltography

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This is just the first step in Avengers Campus expanding into Hollywoodland. I’d rather sacrifice Hyperion than the Animation Building. I love that lobby. I still want Animation Building Lobby: The Ride. Somewhere to catch all the old school Disney feels from the comfort of your own ride vehicle as opposed to having to camp out for a spectacular for hours. Im thinking something like Circle Vision meets Soarin meets Philharmagic 2.0.
Runaway Railway feels like the start of this idea but it could go even further. At the very least, we see that projections in rides can still feel rich and engaging and dimensional, you just need to take care of the media.

The fact Disney has to come up with something here gives me hope. I liked the Frozen show- it was perfectly fine but it was basically the movie on stage. Aladdin was good, and the Genie added some rewatchability, but again, Aladdin on stage.

Other then a few clips from the Hawkeye show Disney doesn't have something to copy here. They have to develop the story, songs, etc. from scratch.

This could be the most unique thing we've gotten from DL Entertainment in a while.
This is what gives me some hope for the project; if they can take what we saw in Hawkeye and give it some backbone and something sincere at its core, I'd feel a lot better. It doesn't have to be serious (and honestly it probably shouldn't), but sincerity is what will give Rogers some longevity in my opinion.

I'm not expecting a Broadway production but it'll probably be at least 30 minutes- it takes too long to seat the theater and empty the theater to have it be 15 minutes.
It'll probably be closer to an hour if it's supposed to be any good. They have a ton of material they can get through between TFA and Avengers. For theme park audiences' sakes, it likely won't be like the one-acts that Broadway produces (I think Six is 75 minutes and Come From Away is 90 minutes).
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Yeah, because what bothers him is how absurdly and aloofly the show treats a real world event that killed so many people. That’s the joke. I don’t think aloofly is a word but you get the point. Or you don’t!
Your opinion, and if you want to see it as a joke more power to you. I didn't see it as a joke but rather scenes to show how Clint is still affected by the tragic events of losing his close friend even years later and the fragility of his own life, which is underlying story of the whole first season.
 

waltography

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You may call it a "joke" as your opinion, but it was intended to be a real Broadway show within the context of the show. And again it was Feige who decided to go all out on it with a real Broadway director, a real theater cast, real stage and sets, real costumes, etc -

Can't it be both? I read the existence of Rogers as a meta commentary on the Hamilton effect (and how that musical essentially rewrote the legacy of a founding father by recontextualizing his words and actions through a modern lens). The real Avengers are rough around the edges, their interpersonal relationships are complicated, and so it's ridiculous that the musical paints the Avengers as this rag-tag dream team. In-universe, though, that's precisely how they'd be depicted because the show creators wouldn't have sat in the conversations that went down in the movies, so of course the musical would be nothing more than the superficial spectacle it was/is.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Can't it be both? I read the existence of Rogers as a meta commentary on the Hamilton effect (and how that musical essentially rewrote the legacy of a founding father by recontextualizing his words and actions through a modern lens). The real Avengers are rough around the edges, their interpersonal relationships are complicated, and so it's ridiculous that the musical paints the Avengers as this rag-tag dream team. In-universe, though, that's precisely how they'd be depicted because the show creators wouldn't have sat in the conversations that went down in the movies, so of course the musical would be nothing more than the superficial spectacle it was/is.
If someone wants to call it an MCU "joke", go for it. It just wasn't meant to be seen as anything but a Broadway show in-universe like you said in the vein of Hamilton. In fact the show writers got the whole idea from seeing the Hamilton posters on their way to work everyday.

Basically my point was they wouldn't have done a fully fleshed out Broadway musical number if it was just meant as a "joke". Some can see it that way and its fine, but its intent was deeper than just a funny satirical parody of a Broadway show.

And clearly with the new show coming to the Hyperion they see it as more than just a "joke".
 

No Name

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I sought the opinion of an outside source, ChatGPT:


“Rogers The Musical is a joke within the show Hawkeye because it's a satirical portrayal of a Broadway-style musical that tells the story of Steve Rogers, also known as Captain America, and his heroic deeds. The musical is presented as a lavish production with big production numbers, elaborate costumes, and over-the-top choreography.

The joke is that the musical is a cheesy, over-the-top parody of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and its iconic characters. It pokes fun at the idea of a musical based on a superhero, and the exaggerated portrayal of Steve Rogers as a larger-than-life hero.

Moreover, the musical's portrayal of the Battle of New York from the first Avengers movie is inaccurate and sensationalized, which further adds to the humor. The musical portrays the battle as a colorful, fun-filled spectacle, complete with singing and dancing superheroes, while in reality, it was a harrowing and destructive event that caused significant damage to the city.

Overall, Rogers The Musical is a comedic device used in the show Hawkeye to poke fun at the larger-than-life world of superheroes and the Hollywood blockbuster machine that has made them so popular.”
 

celluloid

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It relies on the entire general public being mostly in on the joke so it better be presented very well.

I fear this will be another case of Marvel Superhero Island looking better again with what Disney tends to do with Marvel outside of Guardians.

If it is not presented well, the general public will see it as a Spiderman Rocks situation.
 

No Name

Well-Known Member
It relies on the entire general public being mostly in on the joke so it better be presented very well.

I fear this will be another case of Marvel Superhero Island looking better again with what Disney tends to do with Marvel outside of Guardians.

If it is not presented well, the general public will see it as a Spiderman Rocks situation.
Spider-Man Rocks! was so quintessentially early 2000s (along with Tarzan Rocks!) that I kind of miss it.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
Spider-Man Rocks! was so quintessentially early 2000s (along with Tarzan Rocks!) that I kind of miss it.

Yeah....

Honestly the Creature from The Black Lagoon The Musical one was the most fun for me, but it was done even more tongue in cheek and played like a HHN level stage show of parody and meta humor.

I saw Tarzan Rocks in 2000 and hated it then.
 
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