Rides in the Wrong Park?

DisneyJunkie

DisneyJunkie

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fosse76 said:
The suggestion that Jungle Cruise belongs at Animal Kingdom is ridiculous. The ride, as it is today, is perfectly suited for the Magic Kingdom.
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The idea of a boat ride showcasing animatronic animals going to a park that's completely based on animals is far from ridiculous. The ride, in no way, is at all suited for the Magic Kingdom. There's nothing "magical" about it, it has no well known characters, and has no basis on any Disney film.
 
Tom

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DisneyJunkie said:
The idea of a boat ride showcasing animatronic animals going to a park that's completely based on animals is far from ridiculous. The ride, in no way, is at all suited for the Magic Kingdom. There's nothing "magical" about it, it has no well known characters, and has no basis on any Disney film.
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In 1971 it was perfectly suited for the MK. The lands of the MK (both Disneyland and WDW) were themed and named after the different types of productions that Walt Disney Studios produced.

For example, Frontierland was themed around the western films Disney made. Adventureland was themed around the African and Jungle shows they made (I apologize, but at 11:00pm, the trivia surrounding the real show names are slipping my mind). Fantasyland was obviously themed around their fairy tales and animated classics.

Using the logic that the Jungle Cruise doesn't fit in the MK, neither do BTMR, HoP, HM, CoP, Tiki...and so on. There are no Disney characters in any of those attractions, but yet they all fit in the MK perfectly, if you understand the original design intent.
 
xsupaxmanxsfnex

xsupaxmanxsfnex

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DisneyJunkie said:
The idea of a boat ride showcasing animatronic animals going to a park that's completely based on animals is far from ridiculous. The ride, in no way, is at all suited for the Magic Kingdom. There's nothing "magical" about it, it has no well known characters, and has no basis on any Disney film.
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I think it is very magical. Since Walt Disney did create the idea for the attraction himself. He wanted to use real animals but at the time could not figure out how to keep the animals in an area and do what he wanted. We have since figured that out with the Kilamanjaro Safaris in DAK. To me it stands out as a "Magic Kingdom" attraction.
 
Tom

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DisneyJunkie said:
There's absolutely no sense of adventure to it. So what makes it perfect? It would fix exactly with the persona of AK.
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I guess there are 2 ways to look at this thread.

One way is to say, "If we bulldozed the entire WDW complex and built all 4 theme parks from scratch at the same time, what rides should go where??" If this were the question, sure, maybe JC should go in AK.

But if you ask, "What rides have they BUILT in the wrong parks in the last 10 years?", you'd get completely different answers. For example, JC is perfect for the MK because when it was built, there was a different intent and there was no AK in the plans. However, if they built JC new today, perhaps they should put it in the AK.

But then again, what WOULD be appropriate in the MK if they built it today? We can't put any Pixar stuff there because the consensus is that it belongs in the studios. We can't put anything in the MK that doesn't include Disney characters. We can't put anything in the MK that contains animals because that should go in AK. And we can't put anything futuristic in Tomorrowland because it should go in Future World instead.

We can all play Monday Morning Quarterback, but overall, I think they've done a fairly decent job of placing attractions.
 
Wilt Dasney

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If you moved Jungle Cruise to AK, you'd need to use real animals. Some people might consider that an upgrade, but it would result in a much different ride. A lot of the silly jokes skippers make depend on AAs being in a certain spot as the boat passes, so that corny, predictable humor wouldn't really work with real animals. An AK Jungle Cruise would probably be a more serious, nature-based ride...more like Kilimanjaro Safaris on water.
 
Wilt Dasney

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DisneyJunkie said:
Not necessarily. Look at It's Tough to Be a Bug.....it had some really good animatronic creatures in it (though the attraction is primarily 3-D)....but still...
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Anything's possible, I guess...but the difference in my mind is almost all the AA's I can think of at AK are extinct (Dinosaur), mythical (Yeti) or cartoon characters (Tough to be a Bug). The only "real" animals I can think of that have AAs in the park are the elephants on the Safari ride.

Since the major selling point of the park is the chance to see real animals, I don't think a ride populated with fake versions of animals that actually exist would fit in AK very well. People would wonder why they didn't just put animals in the ride. I just can't see them doing it, personally. :shrug:
 
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xsupaxmanxsfnex said:
Well I love having Finding Nemo at DAK and Beauty and the Beast at DHS... So there! :lol:
You have the right to your opinion and so do I. I just think they could have done something more with The Magic Carpets of Aladdin seeing that we already have Dumbo. It seems a little more plain. Dumbo is kinda "iconic" for the Magic Kingdom and Fantasyland. Aladdin doesn't do anything for me.
Even though Astro Orbiter is the same thing, it's different because it's elevated, and Triceratop Spin is the same deal with The Magic Carpets.
The Railroad is also iconic with the Magic Kingdom because of the station being the first thing you see when walking up to the park. With it going through Splash Mountain and by other attractions, it serves a purpose.
Rock n Roller Coaster is a roller coaster like all Six Flags parks has but they could never produce something as great before Disney could.
If you read around you'll learn that Indiana Jones is way outdated and most people do feel it should be removed or replaced with a roller coaster also themed to Indiana Jones.
Plus I never said anything about a ride being cheap so I don't know where that came from.
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I don't know if you've ever seen the line for Dumbo, but I would much rather wait in the Aladdin line than that, and personally, I like Aladdin better.

DHS is more of a show park than attraction and I think the Indiana Jones Stunt show is a perfect fit for it. If they ever replaced it with a roller coaster I would be very disappointed, especially since there is probably going to be the Monsters Inc. roller coaster in Pixar Place.
 
xsupaxmanxsfnex

xsupaxmanxsfnex

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Block Partier said:
I don't know if you've ever seen the line for Dumbo, but I would much rather wait in the Aladdin line than that, and personally, I like Aladdin better.

DHS is more of a show park than attraction and I think the Indiana Jones Stunt show is a perfect fit for it. If they ever replaced it with a roller coaster I would be very disappointed, especially since there is probably going to be the Monsters Inc. roller coaster in Pixar Place.
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I wasn't talking about the lines but I guess they are a little different if you really want to get picky.
But what you said about the show park for DHS is only part true. ToT? RnRC? TSM? I guess we should move those to different parks because they should have shows in those places.
Personally, I don't think we should move any attractions besides one or two. WDW has placed them in a spot and that is where they are. Don't like it? Too bad. It's not like that makes you not ever go there again. I love WDW how it is. Of course we are going to want to change somethings because we are just the GP. You can't always get what you want. In that case, take what you get.
 
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xsupaxmanxsfnex said:
I wasn't talking about the lines but I guess they are a little different if you really want to get picky.
But what you said about the show park for DHS is only part true. ToT? RnRC? TSM? I guess we should move those to different parks because they should have shows in those places.
Personally, I don't think we should move any attractions besides one or two. WDW has placed them in a spot and that is where they are. Don't like it? Too bad. It's not like that makes you not ever go there again. I love WDW how it is. Of course we are going to want to change somethings because we are just the GP. You can't always get what you want. In that case, take what you get.
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Wait a minute, YOU were the one who was talking about what should be where, I love where everything is. You said Aladdin, and Indiana Jones, and Rock 'n' Rollercoaster should be moved and that Aladdin wasn't "iconic" enough for MK. "Don't like it? Too bad."

Tower of Terror, RnRC, and Toy Story Mania ALL belong, I was saying DHS is known for it's great shows. It is also known for their thrill rides as well.

O and "if you really want to get picky", I just counted how many shows and rides are in DHS.
Shows: 9
Rides: 6
 
Little Green Men

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xsupaxmanxsfnex said:
I just think they could have done something more with The Magic Carpets of Aladdin seeing that we already have Dumbo. It seems a little more plain. Dumbo is kinda "iconic" for the Magic Kingdom and Fantasyland. Aladdin doesn't do anything for me.Even though Astro Orbiter is the same thing, it's different because it's elevated, and Triceratop Spin is the same deal with The Magic Carpets.
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When we took the Keys to the Kingdom tour, our tour guide said that the logic behind The Magic Carpets of Aladdin was this; Dumbo always has a huge line and Astro Orbiter does as well. So they thought it would be good to build another ride like that so people won't miss out on the spinning rides. Statistics show that guests usually head to Tommorowland first and make their way through the park counter clockwise. So Adventureland is basically deserted in the morning. Also Adventureland hadn't seen any updates in many years, so they thought it would be the perfect place to put the ride.
 
xsupaxmanxsfnex

xsupaxmanxsfnex

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Wait a minute, YOU were the one who was talking about what should be where, I love where everything is. You said Aladdin, and Indiana Jones, and Rock 'n' Rollercoaster should be moved and that Aladdin wasn't "iconic" enough for MK. "Don't like it? Too bad."

Tower of Terror, RnRC, and Toy Story Mania ALL belong, I was saying DHS is known for it's great shows. It is also known for their thrill rides as well.

O and "if you really want to get picky", I just counted how many shows and rides are in DHS.
Shows: 9
Rides: 6
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I never said RnRC should be moved! Could you find a quote please? Would love to see it.
It is too bad if I don't like it! What can I do about it! Out of God knows how many attractions there are in WDW I named 2. I'm not going to protest and get them moved. Too bad I think they should be "moved", nothing I could ever do to change it.
What am I doing explaining myself to someone mixing up my words. Getting mad over a topic on a WDW forum. My apologies.
 
SirGoofy

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DisneyJunkie said:
There's absolutely no sense of adventure to it. So what makes it perfect? It would fix exactly with the persona of AK.
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You're right, there's absolutely no sense of adventure in a ride that takes you through a lush jungle and carries you on 4 of the worlds most exotic rivers, while simultaneously being attacked by hippos and natives, and seeing plenty of animals. :rolleyes:

And I'd say there's something magical about being able to be on the Congo River one minute, and the Nile another. So there's that.

And since when does a MK ride need "well-known" characters to be at MK? What well-known characters are in Haunted Mansion? Or Space Mountain? Or Big Thunder Mountain? I guess they should all go too, right?
 
xsupaxmanxsfnex

xsupaxmanxsfnex

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SirGoofy said:
You're right, there's absolutely no sense of adventure in a ride that takes you through a lush jungle and carries you on 4 of the worlds most exotic rivers, while simultaneously being attacked by hippos and natives, and seeing plenty of animals. :rolleyes:

And I'd say there's something magical about being able to be on the Congo River one minute, and the Nile another. So there's that.

And since when does a MK ride need "well-known" characters to be at MK? What well-known characters are in Haunted Mansion? Or Space Mountain? Or Big Thunder Mountain? I guess they should all go too, right?
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HaHa This topic is getting very heated! :lol:
 

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