Rich Manhattan moms hire handicapped tour guides so kids can cut lines at Disney World

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Clever Name

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Given the fact that eating healthy and not doing drugs is beat into our heads through media and other resources (such as school education, where we have "health" courses...for me I had them every year from age 8 through 16 in public schools around the US...I went to 10 schools in 12 years, we moved a lot)...
Moved? I would imagine that all the schools in your area wanted you so badly that they traded you back forth from school to school. :D
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
'Stupid' is misplaced in a civilised debate.

Few are completely obliged to ever do something. Few smokers were ever put a gun to their head by the tobacco industry. But still they were sold lethal drugs by a cynical industry which employed marketing, lies, deceit on a public subjected to forces such as peer pressure and a failing drug policy.

Don't look funny at me. Look funny at the US supreme court which in recent years has adopted what responsible people have been saying with me all along: smokers are not the only ones to blame, the people selling them junk are too, and the tobacco industry can not escape its responsibility any longer. I predict Big Food will be next.

When I go to DLP, I lose a kilo. When I go to WDW, I gain a kilo.

One witnesses the same phenomenon at large too: are Americans more ill-disciplined than Frenchmen? Are Americans lacking in personal responsibility more than Germans? I think not. I think the vastly different obesity rates on both sides of the Atlantic are not a matter of moral failure of Americans, but of larger societal forces.

I also understand that Americans are more prone to think in terms of personal responsibilty, individualism, and with a certain disregard for the government and social factors. ;)
And to think that in Europe they call me names for refusing to agree Americans are ill-disciplined fatties!

You're German?
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Ich bin nicht aus Deutschland. Ich lebte dort. Ich zog in die USA. Ich hasste es.

Mein "Sport" Schultasche vermisse ich.

Meine Sprache ist schlecht. Es ist nicht in den USA verbreitet, keine Praxis.
 

Victor Kelly

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Look, all of us here want to protect the truly disabled. Please please please, do not worry about what others are thinking about you. Their opinions are like behinds, every has one.

Another quick story. While on our honeymoon we were in the Contemporary on the monorail platform. The woman behind us kept running into my wifes feet with a stroller making her trip several times. My wife turns and gets mean. The woman wheeling a toddler in the stroller screams her kid id autistic. Me being me, I asked her who was in control of the stroller her, or the autistic son sitting in the stroller. She looked at me while a bewildered expression knowing the logic of the situation called me some colorful expletives and turned around and literally ran away.

Here is the moral. If you have an issue that is fine. If someone you are with has an issue, that is fine too. If you are ok and try to blame someone else that cannot possibly have caused an issue, sit down, and shut up. If you are ok and cruise the system for personal gain then shame on you. Karma is a and you will get repaid.

I have helped people that are disabled in the parks and elsewhere. I have seen others do this as well. Ignore the stares if you have a legit reason to need the GAC. My friends dad needed an ACV to get around the parks. But to look at him nothing seems amis. Yet he has back and leg problems. I also have bad knees and a bad back and neck. Could I get the GAC card? Probably. But, I will keep going and going the regular way until I cannot anymore, and let the people who really need it have it.
 

luv

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There is a huge difference between having a medical condition that causes weight gain or loss and choosing to eat ice cream and potato chips.

Medical stuff is out of your control. The can give you stuff to increase your appetite, but you may still not be able to gain. You can eat 300-500 calories a day and walk five miles, but you'll still gain weight. It's just how it goes until they fix you or you die.

Shoving potato chips down your throat is not Frito-Lay's fault or the government's. it is your own.

Big difference.
 

wkachamp

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It does seem that some people will do anything to appear to get an advantage over other people.

We are pretty new DVC owners and Thanksgiving 2012 we were able to come to Disney and use our ownership for the first time. I did not know anything about GAC or what it entailed. I was using a cane due to a near fatal car accident I was in at Easter 2012. A nice Cast member told me about getting a GAC pass and how it would make touring the Parks easier. She was right it did help but I was convinced that it was something offered by Disney to help guest. But I guess that some feel that it is a way to get ahead. Fast forward to June of this year. We are coming to visit again. I just recently had a major surgery on my ankle to repair 2 torn tendons and a torn ligament left over from my car accident from last year. My Dr. gave me explicit instructions that I have to use a wheelchair. At first I thought that I would be able to get a GAC to help with our trip, but now after hearing what has happened I am hesitant about getting one. The pain that I am in is not worth a GAC if people are going to abuse the courtesy that Disney extends. I would rather wait with all of the guest. Some people feel that they are "owed" or "entitled" to special services just because of who they are or think that they are. I disagree with that.
 

Yankee Mouse

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I am not too far off from you, I do walk 5-6 miles a day and still weigh too much but my wife is not, has a slew of health issues too long to list here, or in public. She had to have her thyroid removed last September and has SERIOUSLY struggled with weight gain and hunger since. She likens it to taking steroid injections daily that increase your appetite with ZERO metabolic boost. She cannot get out and walk a quarter mile because of severe back issues let alone run, bikes are out because she cannot bend her neck up as it is fused, etc.

MY problem is not only with people abusing the system but others that judge without any clue about the other person, their personal story, reasons, etc. that may be the root cause of their current condition. I am not saying obese people too lazy to walk and take pride in themselves is not an issue in this country but as a whole we need to keep in mind that each person has a reason they are doing what they are doing, be it lazy, health or otherwise.

The assumptions that are made about people in the parks using the GAC, wheelchairs, and scooters are about as sickening as the original story of GAC abuse.
 
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