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Revenge Vacation: Only Actual Data Need Apply
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Trackmaster
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Cedar Point is going to be very dependent on weather. It follows a lot of the regional park logic, so the GP will just stay home when they see clouds in the sky, and pack in every inch when its a lovely day out. You may have just hit a nice day.
I'd say that 2021 was the revenge year for CP, since it had been open since 2020. 2022 is getting to be back to normal, and if anything, you might find attendance sagging since they're down Top Thrill Dragster and Wicked Twister, and haven't added a new one since 2018. Regardless, CP has been losing a lot of its magic, and a lot of people are defecting to King's Island now.
Disney World is getting a lot of the revenge travel since it attracts a lot of tourists who have more money (so they took Covid more seriously) and the experience was notoriously slashed in 2020 and 2021, and this is Disney getting back to normal.
GoneViral
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Right, I struggle to envision a scenario where business travel ever returns to the way we knew it even five years ago. Yes, some work must be done face to face, but companies can save so much money via video chat. Most of them stubbornly refused to acknowledge that before the pandemic. Now that they know, I just don't see them going back.
GoneViral
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This was an exceptional post. Thank you!
GoneViral
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Cleveland.com was saying last month that Top Thrill Dragster's fate is in the air. That would blow my mind, but after what happened last year, maybe they've decided they cannot maintain it safely.
Tha Realest
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Wow - you're welcome!
Trackmaster
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TTD will likely never open again. They already shipped the trains off to Knotts so that they can be used for parts for Xcelerator.
Wendy Pleakley
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Personally speaking, I had a 2-week trip for Disneyland and California scheduled for Summer 2020, which I finally took at the beginning of this year.
I'm not travelling above and beyond what I normally would. I'm not taking three trips this year to make up for lost time. In lieu of travel I generally spent the money elsewhere - new TV, new computer, new toys, etc.
I'll be curious to see what happens long term. Anyone fortunate to work from home during the pandemic and not have their income affected would certainly contribute to a 'revenge travel' period. I was certainly itching to make my trip happen.
Once that initial bubble subsides, and things get back to normal, there will be people still trying to recover financially from the period. Will it be a travel bump (driven by those who continued to work and save) followed by a dip in travel?
I'm not travelling above and beyond what I normally would. I'm not taking three trips this year to make up for lost time. In lieu of travel I generally spent the money elsewhere - new TV, new computer, new toys, etc.
I'll be curious to see what happens long term. Anyone fortunate to work from home during the pandemic and not have their income affected would certainly contribute to a 'revenge travel' period. I was certainly itching to make my trip happen.
Once that initial bubble subsides, and things get back to normal, there will be people still trying to recover financially from the period. Will it be a travel bump (driven by those who continued to work and save) followed by a dip in travel?
Constipated Palpatine
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I don't know about other countries, but here in the US it seems like the Summer of Bumper to Bumper.
Never seen so many backups and delays in my life. Many are wrecks, others have been construction. Not sure how much is from "Revenge" travel or people just deer in headlights confused to be out and about again after the past couple years. The extra delays getting to and from has dampened my travel spirit this summer.
Never seen so many backups and delays in my life. Many are wrecks, others have been construction. Not sure how much is from "Revenge" travel or people just deer in headlights confused to be out and about again after the past couple years. The extra delays getting to and from has dampened my travel spirit this summer.
SaucyBoy
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I don't know about "revenge" travel, but this summer my family and I are doing two trips together. The first is next week to Orlando and the second is a weeklong cruise to Alaska. I'm also flying to NJ for a concert on Aug 11. It's not really pent up demand, just a desire to travel again without (so many) restrictions.
No thanks -- I don't have to.
Flight Delays Hamper July 4 Travel
More than 1,400 U.S. flights were canceled over the weekend. A shooting at a parade in a Chicago suburb sent hundreds fleeing for safety.
On July 4 weekend, thousands of U.S. travelers
are inconvenienced by flight delays and cancellations.
Nearly seven million travelers flooded U.S. airports on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, with a total of 13 million air travelers to, from or within the United States expected to have passed through by the end of this Fourth of July weekend.For many of those passengers, however, travel plans were upended because of flight delays and cancellations caused by a boom in travel demand coupled with widespread staffing shortages. From Friday through Sunday, airlines that fly within, into, or out of the United States canceled more than 1,400 flights, according to FlightAware, a flight-tracking website, stranding and angering some passengers headed for long-awaited summer vacations. In addition, more than 14,000 U.S. flights were delayed this holiday weekend, according to the site’s data.
The experience has been frustrating for some passengers on U.S. carriers. On Saturday, 1,048 — or 29 percent — of Southwest Airlines flights were delayed, as were 28 percent of American Airlines flights, according to FlightAware. United Airlines and Delta Air Lines had similar problems, with 21 percent and 19 percent of their flights delayed. On Sunday, the middle of the holiday weekend, travelers seemed to be getting a respite from the worst of the troubles, with roughly three-quarters of the delays and half as many cancellations as the day before.
As of 9 a.m. Eastern time on Monday, there were more than 600 delays and about 140 cancellations at U.S. airports.
As airlines face a pilot shortage, bad weather conditions and air traffic control delays, some seemed to struggle to handle passenger volume that approached or in some cases exceeded prepandemic levels. On Friday, the Transportation Safety Administration screened more passengers — 2.49 million people — than on any other day this year. That surpassed the 2.18 million travelers screened on July 1, 2019, before the pandemic.
Still, travel to and from airports in the United States seemed to be going better than in many other parts of the world. On Sunday, airlines had delayed about half of all flights departing from Toronto Pearson International Airport, Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris and Frankfurt Airport, while about 40 percent of flights from London Heathrow were delayed.
On Monday, Australian airports were hit hard, with nearly 60 percent of departing flights from Sydney Airport delayed, while airports in Brisbane and Melbourne did not fare much better. SAS, the Scandinavian airline, said on Monday that its pilots’ union had called a strike over pay, which would lead to the cancellation of 50 percent of its flights, affecting about 30,000 passengers daily. The money-losing carrier, which serves as the national airline of Denmark, Norway and Sweden, called the move “devastating.”
Married5Times
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mess with the July 4th bull and get the horns
when will people learn if you insist on playing the game close to Thanksgiving, Christmas/New Years, Easter or the equivalent you are asking for it
when will people learn if you insist on playing the game close to Thanksgiving, Christmas/New Years, Easter or the equivalent you are asking for it
MickeyLuv'r
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To some extent it depends how one defines 'pre-pandemic levels.'
How do we compare 2022 to prior years? What prior years or range of prior years?
How do we compare 2022 to prior years? What prior years or range of prior years?
There's a graphic in the post above.
MickeyLuv'r
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Uh, duh, thanks for pointing out the obvious, but that still doesn't answer my question because the graph only shows # of TSA screenings for 2019-2022. It is far from a complete answer to your original question.
That graph is only useful if you are randomly defining 2019 = a standard of measure for the very vague term, "normal year."
But 2019 was not a normal year if you look at ANY other years.
On top of that, the above graphic only shows TSA screenings. The number of TSA screenings only tells a portion of the story. For example, it doesn't tell anything about the distance they are traveling. Nor does it show anything at all about other modes of travel: car, bus, train.
I could go on....
All of 2019 was a full pre-pandemic year. I don't see why that isn't good pre-pandemic statistics.
MickeyLuv'r
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I think you missed the point. I didn't say the graph was inaccurate. I said 'normal' is a subjective term. To measure anything, you need to define a standard of measure.
2019 was pre-pandemic, but we don't know that 2019 was a normal travel year, because we have not defined 'normal.' From what I have read, 2019 was an above-average travel year.
If you want to say the USA is back to normal, or not back to normal, so be it.
Looks like there was a 2-4% increase each year leading up to 2019.
Thus, 2019 does represent typical pre-pandemic travel levels (at least, going by plane trips).
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Ldno
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Be careful with your Revenge Travel, I did the same about two weeks ago, I’m fully vaxxed with boosters and my whole entire family(kids included) got COVID, monkeypox, whatever is the flavor of the month, I was bed ridden for 4 days, In the past I tested positive for covid 5 times(the last being the 5th) and this was the worst I have ever felt in my entire life. I started feeling horrible during the last day my kids wanted to use the pool so there’s that.
Watch out and Oh Disney although they have sanitizers all over, 60% were empty, I had my own but still, you never know.
Watch out and Oh Disney although they have sanitizers all over, 60% were empty, I had my own but still, you never know.