figmentmom
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Is that a threat?!? Do you feel so endangered at WDW that you feel it's necessary to endanger the rest of us?
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Restaurant Worker Suspect in Pizzeria Parking Lot Murder
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Is that a threat?!? Do you feel so endangered at WDW that you feel it's necessary to endanger the rest of us?
antoinebusby
Member
Firearms at WDW
Firearms at Disney World?
Man, I am a Police Officer myself, and let me tell you...any chance I get to not have to carry that big department issued Sig Pro .40 caliber semi-automatic weapon with me, I definitely leave it locked up in my house.
I mean, I arrest people for a living 5, 6, sometimes even 7 days a week. These are people that live in the same community as I do. Now, if I don't feel threatened by some sort of retaliation when I see these same people walking around in Wal-Mart (at this point, my family may be with me)....
HOW IN THE SAM-HILL-HELL CAN YOU FEEL THREATENED WHILE YOU ARE AT DISNEY WORLD?
Come on, let's not be so insecure about our manhood (or womanhood) to the point of bringing a gun into Disney World!
What if your little gun went off while you were being jarred around on one of the rides. Sure you may not get hurt, but some innocent person may. Rest assured, if I or any member of my family got hurt because of your little handgun, before you get hauled off to jail, you'll have a good ol' fashioned Walt Disney World @$$ kicking coming your way!
Firearms at Disney World?
Man, I am a Police Officer myself, and let me tell you...any chance I get to not have to carry that big department issued Sig Pro .40 caliber semi-automatic weapon with me, I definitely leave it locked up in my house.
I mean, I arrest people for a living 5, 6, sometimes even 7 days a week. These are people that live in the same community as I do. Now, if I don't feel threatened by some sort of retaliation when I see these same people walking around in Wal-Mart (at this point, my family may be with me)....
HOW IN THE SAM-HILL-HELL CAN YOU FEEL THREATENED WHILE YOU ARE AT DISNEY WORLD?
Come on, let's not be so insecure about our manhood (or womanhood) to the point of bringing a gun into Disney World!
What if your little gun went off while you were being jarred around on one of the rides. Sure you may not get hurt, but some innocent person may. Rest assured, if I or any member of my family got hurt because of your little handgun, before you get hauled off to jail, you'll have a good ol' fashioned Walt Disney World @$$ kicking coming your way!
Poncho1973
New Member
NOT Disney Property
Actually, Disney sold this property about 2 years ago. It isn't owned by Disney any longer... the entire Crossroads complex.
Actually, Disney sold this property about 2 years ago. It isn't owned by Disney any longer... the entire Crossroads complex.
Poncho1973
New Member
Re: Re: NOT Disney Property
Nope. As someone who was a tiny part of it. It is completely NON-Disney and was even de-annexed from the Reedy Creek Improvement District. Crossroads is 100% a part of Orange County and wholly owned by individuals other than Disney.
Nope. As someone who was a tiny part of it. It is completely NON-Disney and was even de-annexed from the Reedy Creek Improvement District. Crossroads is 100% a part of Orange County and wholly owned by individuals other than Disney.
mac388
New Member
Murder on Disney Property
Many of you are completely right. The land that Crossroads is situated on was bought by Walt Disney and is still owned by the Disney Company. Disney is like the "landlord" for the land, which doesn't make them responsible or liable for the murder. I know that's not an issue, but it is one of those confusing things like, it's kind of Disney property, but if someone wanted to sue or file complaints, Disney would not be liable. Another example is (believe it or not) Times Square. I moved to Manhattan last August and on my map it had Times Square as "Times (Disney) Square." I asked some native NYC'ers about this and they said that Disney bought most of the land in Times Square so they could renovate it and clean it up for their Broadway shows. Let me tell you, that place is like night and day now!! Anyways, Disney owns a lot of land around the country. However, if someone was killed in Times Square, would we say they were murdered on Disney property? Maybe not..... I think it's the same case with Crossroads.
Also, everyone's right about the "No one dies on Disney property" thing. I worked as a Lifeguard Cast Member and a coroner needs to declare them deceased, which can only be done at area hospitals. It also helps with legal issues!!
Many of you are completely right. The land that Crossroads is situated on was bought by Walt Disney and is still owned by the Disney Company. Disney is like the "landlord" for the land, which doesn't make them responsible or liable for the murder. I know that's not an issue, but it is one of those confusing things like, it's kind of Disney property, but if someone wanted to sue or file complaints, Disney would not be liable. Another example is (believe it or not) Times Square. I moved to Manhattan last August and on my map it had Times Square as "Times (Disney) Square." I asked some native NYC'ers about this and they said that Disney bought most of the land in Times Square so they could renovate it and clean it up for their Broadway shows. Let me tell you, that place is like night and day now!! Anyways, Disney owns a lot of land around the country. However, if someone was killed in Times Square, would we say they were murdered on Disney property? Maybe not..... I think it's the same case with Crossroads.
Also, everyone's right about the "No one dies on Disney property" thing. I worked as a Lifeguard Cast Member and a coroner needs to declare them deceased, which can only be done at area hospitals. It also helps with legal issues!!
Poncho1973
New Member
Re: Re: Re: Re: NOT Disney Property
I've learned a lot from you... this is just a small piece of info back.
I've learned a lot from you... this is just a small piece of info back.
Poncho1973
New Member
Re: Murder on Disney Property
I'm sorry, but this just ISN'T factual information. I hope you don't take this as me chastising you, b/c I'm not, I'm just trying to keep it factual.
Orange County Property Appraiser
This link will show you that Disney is NOT a "landlord", nor do they own Crossroads any longer. ITW Mortgage Investments IV Inc. is the owner. Disney (I believe this to still be true) provides the complex with water/sewer services, but nothing else. It was (as I stated earlier) even de-annexed from RCID, back to Orange County. This is part of what I do for a living... so I tend to know these things and they are completely available in the public record.
Snopes article
This will show you that Snopes researched the "no death on property" thing and found at least one Florida case where it WAS declared on property. Your statement that "a coroner needs to declare them deceased" isn't QUITE true. Police, EMTs, doctors and nurses CAN legally declare someone dead. It doesn't happen often and it is UNLIKELY, but not impossible.
AGAIN... please just take this as fact correcting, not like I'm being a jerk.
I'm sorry, but this just ISN'T factual information. I hope you don't take this as me chastising you, b/c I'm not, I'm just trying to keep it factual.
Orange County Property Appraiser
This link will show you that Disney is NOT a "landlord", nor do they own Crossroads any longer. ITW Mortgage Investments IV Inc. is the owner. Disney (I believe this to still be true) provides the complex with water/sewer services, but nothing else. It was (as I stated earlier) even de-annexed from RCID, back to Orange County. This is part of what I do for a living... so I tend to know these things and they are completely available in the public record.
Snopes article
This will show you that Snopes researched the "no death on property" thing and found at least one Florida case where it WAS declared on property. Your statement that "a coroner needs to declare them deceased" isn't QUITE true. Police, EMTs, doctors and nurses CAN legally declare someone dead. It doesn't happen often and it is UNLIKELY, but not impossible.
AGAIN... please just take this as fact correcting, not like I'm being a jerk.
Poncho1973
New Member
Further clarification
Disney also charges for that water/sewer service, just like they would to any customer.
Just so that doesn't seem like a "landlord" thing.
Disney also charges for that water/sewer service, just like they would to any customer.
Just so that doesn't seem like a "landlord" thing.
mac388
New Member
Murders in a Disney Day
Dear Poncho,
No offense taken....too much! I think we're all Disney nuts and want to know everything there is to know.
Anyways....I think we're pretty much on the same page...I do know of the case you're talking about where someone was declared dead on Disney property. These things do happen, but I think you'll agree with me by saying that I'm glad not too many people "seem" to die on Disney property, ya know!?
Thanks for the info~
Dear Poncho,
No offense taken....too much! I think we're all Disney nuts and want to know everything there is to know.
Anyways....I think we're pretty much on the same page...I do know of the case you're talking about where someone was declared dead on Disney property. These things do happen, but I think you'll agree with me by saying that I'm glad not too many people "seem" to die on Disney property, ya know!?
Thanks for the info~
DisneyRoxMySox
Well-Known Member
FyrMan said:
RIGHT ON MAN!! Thanks for you're work as a firefighter. Beleive me, it's appreciated. :wave: :wave:
wannabeBelle
Well-Known Member
You totally ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!! Great going in a very bad situation. As always I Am amazed at the bravery firefighters show!!!! Great job!!!! BelleFyrMan said:
Tigger1988
Well-Known Member
jmvd20 said:
Why would someone lie about such a trivial detail?, I had no knowledge of this murder until just know, what glory could one gain about lying about it