Reservations back to 180 days Oct 27th

[dizzney]

Thrilled its going back to 180, so we have more of a chance of getting what we want then, 90 + 10 is to short for some restaurants.

With all the free dining offered it gets very difficult to dine where you want to,

The days are gone where you could walk in when you wanted to and unfortunately this is necessary as a result.

 

[Tinkyroo]

To us, unless they also release park hours and EMH 6 months in advance 180 day dining reservations are useless :brick:

I totally agree!

 

[awilliams4]

Its easy - you plan your days around the park hours and EMH. After that - you pick your restaurants.

You have to eat somewhere - the advantage to planning 180 days out is being virtually guaranteed to get what you want (as a lot of folk don't work that far ahead)

If its true - then well done Disney

How do you plan your days around Park Hours and EMH at 180 days if they aren't posted until 90 days out?

I will just circumvent the system and make (4) dinner reservations...one at each park...at 180 days and then cancel (3) around 90 days out once I know which parks have EMH as those will be the ones I will be at around dinner time.

 

[GothMickey]

How do you plan your days around Park Hours and EMH at 180 days if they aren't posted until 90 days out?

I will just circumvent the system and make (4) dinner reservations...one at each park...at 180 days and then cancel (3) around 90 days out once I know which parks have EMH as those will be the ones I will be at around dinner time.

Again, park hours HAVE TO be released 180 days out. But that will be wishful thinking. Just because ADRs are 180 does not mean you'll get into places you want. The popular places will still book fast whether it is 180 or 90.

And if you do what you said, then the system will cancel ALL your reservations, do you realize that right?

 

[dreamfinder]

Thrilled its going back to 180, so we have more of a chance of getting what we want then, 90 + 10 is to short for some restaurants.

The amount of time in advance won't matter that much. Possibly if it was 365 days out, then real good planners could have a bit of advantage since many people don't book their trips that far out, but 180 vs 90 won't make that much difference. All the hard to get restaurants are still going to fill up just as fast. As you said, its the dining plan, and the lack of quality TS at some of the parks.

 

[awilliams4]

Again, park hours HAVE TO be released 180 days out. But that will be wishful thinking. Just because ADRs are 180 does not mean you'll get into places you want. The popular places will still book fast whether it is 180 or 90.

And if you do what you said, then the system will cancel ALL your reservations, do you realize that right?

I have been going to WDW 10 years straight now and over the years I have double-booked dining ressies from time to time. I have canceled the double-bookings as time got closer to my visit and I finally figured out where we will be going and never in the past have I had Priority Seatings or ADR canceled. Is this something new? I have a couple double-bookings right now for our October trip that I plan to cancel/clean up and none of those were canceled.

Are you just blowing smoke?

 

[CAPTAIN HOOK]

How do you plan your days around Park Hours and EMH at 180 days if they aren't posted until 90 days out?

They were - until the dining window changed from 180 to 90 then the park hours followed suit. Now they're changing back up to 180 then Disney will have to release their schedules at the same time so everything coincides (again)

 

[awilliams4]

They were - until the dining window changed from 180 to 90 then the park hours followed suit. Now they're changing back up to 180 then Disney will have to release their schedules at the same time so everything coincides (again)

Actually, if memory serves they were both at 180 days. Then the economy took a dive and the 180 Park Hours were changed to 90 because Disney was unsure of the crowds thus unsure of what hours to post. Then sometime after the 180 ADR was changed to 90 days. The have not been hand in hand at all.

 

[Master Yoda]

I have been going to WDW 10 years straight now and over the years I have double-booked dining ressies from time to time. I have canceled the double-bookings as time got closer to my visit and I finally figured out where we will be going and never in the past have I had Priority Seatings or ADR canceled. Is this something new? I have a couple double-bookings right now for our October trip that I plan to cancel/clean up and none of those were canceled.

Are you just blowing smoke?

No smoke to be blown. Once the online ADR system went live a couple of months ago an audit system went live as well. If reservations under the same contact information were for near identical times and different restaurants they were being canceled a few days after they were made. You could and still can make double reservations but providing that the audit system is up and running they won't be there more than a few days.

 

[GothMickey]

No smoke to be blown. Once the online ADR system went live a couple of months ago an audit system went live as well. If reservations under the same contact information were for near identical times and different restaurants they were being canceled a few days after they were made. You could and still can make double reservations but providing that the audit system is up and running they won't be there more than a few days.

Thanks for backing me up there.

 

[Lee]

Boo!
Hiss!
Death to the evil ADR and dining plan!

Once again, it will be even more difficult for a local or last-minute guest to get seated at a good restaurant at a decent time.

I long for the good old days of just walking up to a restaurant and being seated. Or even making reservations same day at guest relations.

Bad show, Disney.

 

[Master Yoda]

Boo!
Hiss!
Death to the evil ADR and dining plan!

Once again, it will be even more difficult for a local or last-minute guest to get seated at a good restaurant at a decent time.

I long for the good old days of just walking up to a restaurant and being seated. Or even making reservations same day at guest relations.

Bad show, Disney.

It's just business man. I know it sucks for us Florida boys but the mouse wants the restaurants at 100% capacity and the only way you do that is by taking ADRs until they sell out.

 

[awilliams4]

No smoke to be blown. Once the online ADR system went live a couple of months ago an audit system went live as well. If reservations under the same contact information were for near identical times and different restaurants they were being canceled a few days after they were made. You could and still can make double reservations but providing that the audit system is up and running they won't be there more than a few days.

Master Yoda,

Wow, thank you for that update. I did not know. And this is the 1st I have read about this and I troll many forums.

Do you know if the ADR is canceled that the person who made the ressie is contacted at all? If they cancel and don't contact, that seems a bit harsh especially since this is a new feature.

Also, where did you find this info. I would like to communicate this to some mouseowner members as this has not been posted there yet.

 

[Lee]

It's just business man. I know it sucks for us Florida boys but the mouse wants the restaurants at 100% capacity and the only way you do that is by taking ADRs until they sell out.

Understood, but it's a blatant Keys to the Kingdom violation.
Courtesy beats Efficiency....or does it?:shrug:

 

[SirGoofy]

Understood, but it's a blatant Keys to the Kingdom violation.
Courtesy beats Efficiency....or does it?:shrug:

Lee, haven't you realized by now? Nothing beats Efficiency...except Profit. It's the age we live in.

 

[Lee]

Lee, haven't you realized by now? Nothing beats Efficiency...except Profit. It's the age we live in.

Not I, sir. Not I.
I carry the torch...defender of the Keys.

 

[SirGoofy]

Not I, sir. Not I.
I carry the torch...defender of the Keys.

I try my best. It's rough when you see them chiseled away in front of your face sometimes at work.

 

[Slowjack]

Thrilled its going back to 180, so we have more of a chance of getting what we want then, 90 + 10 is to short for some restaurants.

With all the free dining offered it gets very difficult to dine where you want to,

The days are gone where you could walk in when you wanted to and unfortunately this is necessary as a result.

Yeah, but that's two wrongs not making a right. If free dining means we can't get reservations, it means Disney needs more restaurants. They are creating more demand without creating more supply.

In the end, regardless of how many days out you can make a reservation, the same number of people are going to be disappointed. I guess that under a larger window, you feel it's less likely that you'll be the disappointed party, but as a whole this is a non-solution to the overall problem.

 

[Slowjack]

Boo!
Hiss!
Death to the evil ADR and dining plan!

Once again, it will be even more difficult for a local or last-minute guest to get seated at a good restaurant at a decent time.

I long for the good old days of just walking up to a restaurant and being seated. Or even making reservations same day at guest relations.

Bad show, Disney.

I agree. I'm neither local (or last-minute) when I go but I think it's crazy that even in the off-season you have to make ADRs well in advance now. My previous technique was to get the group to decide the night before where we'd eat the next day and make the ADRs then. Now with FastPasses and EMHs and early ADRs, etc., I feel like I'm planning for the Normandy landings.

 

[Tom]

Yeah, but that's two wrongs not making a right. If free dining means we can't get reservations, it means Disney needs more restaurants. They are creating more demand without creating more supply.

Agreed. Time to add some dining options. Eating used to be secondary when going to WDW back in the good 'ol days (when I was a kid 20 years ago). But now it almost ranks right up there with rides and shows. Especially with all of the high-quality dining establishments they have. With the convenient dining plans and discount/free dining promotions, supply needs to be increased.

I also am a firm believer that they should always allocate X number of tables per hour for walk-ins. I'm not sure if they do this now, or ever did, but it would make good COURTESY, that's for sure. I feel bad for the locals who want to hop over to WDW and eat a nice dinner - only finding that they needed to book that "whim" dinner 6 months ago.

To us, unless they also release park hours and EMH 6 months in advance 180 day dining reservations are useless

I agree 100% to this too. I plan my trip (which days to go to which parks) based on EMH and parade/fireworks schedules (especially since we go during value seasons and never know which night they might run a show). Then I plan food to fit the schedule based on where we are at any given time.

If people are grabbing up ADRs at 180 days out, I'm going to have to stoop to the level of double-booking (unless the system really DOES block it) just to be sure I get to eat where I want to eat, since I won't know where I'll be until 90 days out.

90 days is plenty of time to plan your itinerary AND decide where you want to eat. I'm very OCD and plan, plan, plan, but even I can handle a mere 90 day window. If this IS true (which is still debatable), I think it's a mistake, unless they also extend park hour postings.