Jeff4272
Well-Known Member
and a good cast member
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Reservation expansion
- Thread starter ChuckFromCanada
- Start date
Can I get in on this? I don’t even want to pick a side I just want a dole whip.
Ah wait I have to make park reservations don’t I?
You are good until they start the Resort Pass system. Just head over to Pineapple Lanai at Poly (or Disney Springs for that matter).
Park Pass is already monetized based on the level of ticket you buy. Say for the sake of argument they added a second reservation to park hop, your park hopper ticket is already monetizing the ability to do that. You could argue that they could have a park hopper+ option that allows even more hopping, but then you get into diminishing returns for a product people will not want to pay for or not find useful based on cost.
Besides, the easier thing to do would be to just raise ticket prices like they always do.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
Ah yea forgot about that. Better get there before they require a pass for that too
Disney Glimpses
Well-Known Member
Right. Like the notion that they are going to sell you a ticket for the park but another ticket to make the reservation, just silly lol
Presumably, it linked you out to the web since you cannot create a park pass in MDE.
You also cannot change one, you have to cancel and then add, it's two transactions not a single transaction. There's risk the park you want is no longer available by the time you get to it, and that the park you had goes away while you have none at the same time. Unless you're want or have EPCOT.
While on our trip this June, for all 6 park days, the only park with availability was EPCOT. There might have been an AK one day too.
We had 2 days with reservations for parks we didn't want to go to. We did Typhoon one day and the resort the other. Then did a park after 2:00, AFTER we were forced to go to the park we didn't want to and tap in first.
Jeff4272
Well-Known Member
They will sell you the opportunity to park hop earlier (or unrestricted)........
That is charging for park pass
Problematic because they have repeatedly said that these are temporary restrictions and they already have a pass (which you pay extra for) that allows for park hopping.
So basically what many have been saying for years, that Disney views the consumers in the parks as walking ATM's, and you only have value if they have your PIN number.
I truly appreciate your views and insights around all this. It allows me to make a better-informed decision as to who gets my vacation dollars after September. You can probably guess it won't be Disney, even as a DVC member. I'm tired of the abuse.
crazy4disney
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
hot take dole whip's stink loser should have to eat it lol
Other than a handful of days around the holidays at the MK only, were capacity closures really a big deal? Park Pass resulted in numerous more capacity closures without any decreeable effect on crowding. Anecdotally people are always saying the parks are more busy with "capacity restrictions" than they were pre-covid.
mikejs78
Premium Member
The problem with anecdotal evidence is that it's not based in fact. There's hard data (Touring Plans historical crowd calendar) that shows that the parks are actually less busy. The big problem for the parks right now is ride breakdowns due to lack of maintenance, which drive up wait times.
Chip Chipperson
Well-Known Member
Winner gets an orange Dole Whip. Loser has to eat that cookie dough Dole Whip they're selling at Disney Springs.
Yes they were overcrowded then and they are overcrowded now even with capacity restrictions, just with more breakdowns and G+ and ILL.
Disney Glimpses
Well-Known Member
No, but attendance was still too high on a significant more number of days. That's really what I meant there. Basically stop looking at the fire code capacity limits and look at capacity limits that will offer a reasonable experience.
They are but within reason. Could you imagine what the Magic Kingdom would look like lately without Park Pass?
I don't understand. You're suggesting they will have a Park Hopper Ticket (2pm) and then an Early Park Hopper Ticket (anytime)? C'mon. They are ridiculous but not that ridiculous.
Minnesota disney fan
Well-Known Member
I should get a dolewhip for reading all 23 pages in one setting!!!
This is all so sad and mind boggling as to Why disney is shooting themselves in the foot? They must think paying guests are a renewable resource for infinity.
Our family has made the break from Disney, and honestly? I am happy about it due to the way things are changing for the worse.
We were the couple who everyone else knew loved disney and who helped several families plan their disney trips. We couldn't say enough wonderful things about disney. We don't recommend it now.
I keep checking these sites to see what is going on, and can't believe what's happening. I feel good about the "break" now as we are planning a lot of new activities. We love Universal and the way they run their parks. It's not complicated and it's fun. Oh well, just my 2 cents worth after reading 23 pages, and now have to make supper
This is all so sad and mind boggling as to Why disney is shooting themselves in the foot? They must think paying guests are a renewable resource for infinity.
Our family has made the break from Disney, and honestly? I am happy about it due to the way things are changing for the worse.
We were the couple who everyone else knew loved disney and who helped several families plan their disney trips. We couldn't say enough wonderful things about disney. We don't recommend it now.
I keep checking these sites to see what is going on, and can't believe what's happening. I feel good about the "break" now as we are planning a lot of new activities. We love Universal and the way they run their parks. It's not complicated and it's fun. Oh well, just my 2 cents worth after reading 23 pages, and now have to make supper
JD80
Well-Known Member
It would look like it does at 2PM?
I would posit that Park Pass makes the morning at parks even more unbearable. As crazy as it seemed, having scheduled FP+ seemingly made things more orderly. I just tend to see more guests wandering around confused and staring into their phones.
Disney Glimpses
Well-Known Member
Fair points, really not an apples to apples comparison. Park Pass forces people to busier parks (so they don't waste a reservation on slow parks).