I know, and you know, many locals who have APs, DO SPEND MONEY at WDW, but apparently when the Disney Data folks run the numbers, it’s not enough.
I totally agree. If I lived closer I would probably eat dinner at EPCOT every night. And I would still fill my house with merch as if it were World of Disney V.2.
care to share or hint at what this new normal will be? like what options are they floating around internally?
I can say that improvements are coming and more for some guests than others. Things are going to get better, not worse.
But are things going to get worse for some or stay the same?
with Genie+ correct?
Both Genie+ and reservations. Both are going to improve next year. Right now, neither really make sense. They will make sense next year.
not sure how genie could get worse but im sure they can find a way... lol... so based on your answer you cant really say what bc i didnt think they were gonna change it to make it worse.. wondering if you had any specifics to share
More for guests staying on property or more for guests staying in different resorts on property
Right now, just about the only thing that would make G+ more flexible, is if they offered people on resort stays to pre-book a few a day, just like FP+. We loved FP+ and hated to see that end. If they offered that, we would have no problem with a paid system, but the way it is structured now, no thanks.
Sorry, I was mostly referring to park reservations. As far as G+, I agree with you.
We don't really have a big issue with the park reservations. Being DVC we book our trips at the 11 month mark, and make our park reservations right away. Do we want it to go away? Yes, as we are also AP and park hop every day of a trip, and we'd like the ability to change on the fly like we used to.
I agree that the hype over reservations is a bit overblown considering we all made 3 FP+ reservations for a single park each day prior to COVID; so we were essentially picking our park anyways. Biggest issue is 2pm hopping, but not a game changer for us. FP+ going away is a much, much bigger problem for us.
This is the exact reason why Chapek saying they use it for planning purposes is likely not true. They had a very accurate count of where people would be with FP+ selections
That's the reason he has to give. Imagine if he said on a quarterly earnings call: "We are still using the Park Pass system to limit the number of guests in our parks (revenue) because we don't have enough staff to handle entry or food orders."
Exactly. For those of us that used FP+, this really isn't much different in terms of knowing what park you might be going to. That's why we loved it. We frequently made our 3 FP+ selections for the second park we were going to that day. So we'd rope drop MK first thing, hit the stuff we wanted, then monorail to EPCOT for lunch and our 3 FP+ attractions. Worked great for how we like to travel. Other days we'd use them at the first park. It just depended on what we were doing that day.
I agree that the 2pm sucks, as we would usually hop prior to that. You've hinted that we might have more flexibility next year, so keeping our fingers crossed for that. Yup, FP+ going away totally sucked. We've been twice since they started their G+ crap, and we haven't paid a dime yet. Still rode what we wanted, just had to adjust our timing a bit.
You mean actually tell the truth?
Genie+ blows....we're done until it changes........we never got park hopper b we usually just did 1 park per day and did it late afternoon until closing and slept in every day
For what it's worth, they are well aware of the 2pm pain point. In fact, they were trying to move it to 1pm a few months back, but were unsuccessful. The reason for it is pretty simple: CM entrance shifts overlap at 2pm.
