Report of Harry Potter park being a done deal for USF

Lee

Adventurer
How intense would a ride with the arms have been though? Maybe Disney is a bit reluctant to go too out of the box and too intense with their rides following the M:S incidents?

The arms can be programmed to be as mild or as intense as desired.

If Universal has HP, and they build something it could force Disney to push projects up...I wounder what they'll answer with though. Maybe that new eticket for MK? Or something at the Studios?

Good question. One thing the mouse hates it for the competition to pull a big PR coup. This, if it happens, will not go unanswered.
 

teebin

Member
Most likely it's going into Lost Continent. Uni isn't going to fork over the dough for a whole new mini-park. The $120 million figure they have released won't cover a new land. LC makeover...yep.

Whew...wrote a novel there, huh?:lol:

Yep, I agree.. and my point with the blue highlighted aerial photo was not that they would use all of it for a new park, but using LC plus breaking through behind it and gobling up a 4-6 more acres from the utility space would make it the largest 'island' of all and in fact could become the mini-park Rowling was looking for.

We could be all offbase here but it really makes sense. Then add a whole new attraction to JP and Uni could get itself back on track... possibly bigtime.
 

Shaman

Well-Known Member
Yep, I agree.. and my point with the blue highlighted aerial photo was not that they would use all of it for a new park, but using LC plus breaking through behind it and gobling up a 4-6 more acres from the utility space would make it the largest 'island' of all and in fact could become the mini-park Rowling was looking for.

We could be all offbase here but it really makes sense. Then add a whole new attraction to JP and Uni could get itself back on track... possibly bigtime.

It sure is more space than I thought they had...I just don't think that they would fork over all that money at once into something that could prove to be a major loss ten years out.

Now, lets start discussing what Disney might answer with....if Uni replaced Lost Continent...could we then see different version of Beastly Kingdom at AK? :eek: :lookaroun

One old rumor replaces another...brilliant! :lol:
 

majortom1981

Active Member
Jimhill is reporting that disney is not upset about losing the hp lsicence but is upset at losing the robot arm contract.

Am I the only one who thinks that disney is losing their touch?

They single handedly invented a new coaster type (steel coasters) and have invented their own ride systems.

I am positive they can come up with a much better ride system then that robotic arm. Heck if money was a factor why not partner with another company say Six Flags or Cedar Fair? Maybe even partner with say B&M.

They also have the narnia fracnhise or can look into the Lord of The Rings.They even have that whole mickey sourcerer thing and The Sword in the Stone movie. I don't see why disney is so worried about this.
 

wickedfan07

Member
teebin said:
become the mini-park Rowling was looking for.

When we say "mini-park," do we mean something along the lines of Discovery Cove? That counts as a seperate park. And Harry Potter could probably support a smaller, ultra-immersive environment like that. Having rides based on the world of Harry Potter is one thing, but being able to walk right into the world of magic and interact with it for an entire day would be another thing entirely.

Lee said:
I have no idea what Uni dangled in front of her, but it must have been incredible if she is relaxing her creative demands.

If a mini-park is what Rowling wants, why would she go with Universal if they weren't going to be willing to deliver? Disney developed both an attraction and a mini-park, yet they couldn't agree on either. Why would she agree to less at Universal? Unless all she really cares about is the money earned for the rights and royalties. Maybe she'll take whatever they come up with as long as they're willing to pay. Apparently Disney wasn't willing to pay.

Now how could Disney counter that move?...
 

sknydave

Active Member
What Angler fish sequence is Hill talking about? I can't remember anything that would involve a huge robotic arm in Nemo?


And by mini-park, I think they're just talking about a totally immersive experience within the theme park.
 

Shaman

Well-Known Member
What Angler fish sequence is Hill talking about? I can't remember anything that would involve a huge robotic arm in Nemo?

I think it comes right before the shark part...the fish is chasing Marlin, I think...it moves very quick in various directions. If you look closely you can see the arm. Pretty cool stuff.
 

paul436

Active Member
I don't feel that I would make USF an annual trip like I would WDW if I had the means. I visited USF this past February and had a great time. I have no plans to go back but a new Harry Potter themed land would get be to go back in a couple of years.
 

Uncle Billy

New Member
If this happens it might be the most significant competition the Disney people have ever faced down in Florida. This is my inexperienced eye talking but it really seems like quite a threat. Universal and Sea World (Sea World at least in the 80s) were threats but this Harry Potter thing has some real potential to co-opt some of the Disney Fantasy and Magic that Universal's other parks can't match. Think of it. Castles. Creatures. Immersive environments. What is Disney thinking about something like this. Is the idea to build the best parks you can and then weather something like this? Disney can't prevent it (you can't sit on rights and not act or you lose your option and someone else gets a stab at the rights which seems to be what happened) and they didn't want to invest capital in a non-Disney franchise after Pirates and NArnia took off so I guess they just have to cope. Right or wrong?
 

CaptainMichael

Well-Known Member
If a mini-park is what Rowling wants, why would she go with Universal if they weren't going to be willing to deliver? Disney developed both an attraction and a mini-park, yet they couldn't agree on either. Why would she agree to less at Universal? Unless all she really cares about is the money earned for the rights and royalties. Maybe she'll take whatever they come up with as long as they're willing to pay. Apparently Disney wasn't willing to pay.

Now how could Disney counter that move?...

I'm baffled by the whole thing. To me, it seems that the Universal deal is less impressive, but that's my opinion. Whereas, WDI may have done something spectacular like the Everest area. Universal is retheming something that already exists along with a roller coaster that isn't exactly themed to the level of a Disney coaster. I'd also think that Disney has more money for R&D and doing the actual project. None of this really makes sense to me:shrug:

I don't think Disney can counter this easily.
 

jmvd20

Well-Known Member
If this happens it might be the most significant competition the Disney people have ever faced down in Florida.

If these rumors are in fact accurate then I would say it makes Universal a much better competitior for WDW. However I think the threat would come from "stealing" regular Disney visitors away for a day or 2 on their Disney vacation. I honestly have never met anyone that went to Orlando just for Universal, it seems like most people go for WDW but spend some time at Universal. This news could increase the number of people that go to both places.

I still think that in the long run this is good news for any WDW or Orlando area fan. Competition is good for the customer, if Universal starts to steal away even a small amount of Disney business you can bet WDI will counter with something. A better Universal and therfore a better WDW sounds good to me.
 

Jheyman

Member
And by mini-park, I think they're just talking about a totally immersive experience within the theme park.

According to the hill article they mean something like discovery cove. The interesting thing about this was didn't Rasulo mention something about more imersive experience and trying to create something to compete on the level of discovery cove??? I think this was around the time of the last shareholders meeting I remember hearing this.....
 

jedimaster1227

Active Member
According to the hill article they mean something like discovery cove. The interesting thing about this was didn't Rasulo mention something about more imersive experience and trying to create something to compete on the level of discovery cove??? I think this was around the time of the last shareholders meeting I remember hearing this.....

They have been considering the option for a while, as the money does come in with parks like this, but Disney has a certain face right now- a face of open parks where *anyone* can afford to have their dreams come true. To charge what they have suggested for these "boutique style" parks would destroy that reputation, and that isn't on Rasulo or any of Disney executives' minds at the moment.
 

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