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Replacement for Tomorrowland Speedway?
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TheOrangeBird01
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That looks so much less fun.
Bairstow
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Eh.
Having ridden a bike coaster I can tell you that after the first ride, the novelty kind of wears off.
There's a reason you don't see too many of these.
2351metalcloud
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I don't understand why there are no overhead restraints on the Tron ride. That doesn't seem too safe. Couldn't people slam their head onto part of the cycle they are sitting on if the coaster stopped suddenly or even come out of their seat? I wonder if they would have to add restraints on people's torso somehow if they built the ride in the US.
Bairstow
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The front part of your torso is already resting along the upper curve of the "bike" and the back support locks your torso into place.
Because your upper body is at a 30-degree angle to the track, a sudden stop would apply a forward force on your head and neck, not a downwards force into the bike.
Even if you tried to throw your face downwards for some reason, there's noting for you to hit.
The bike essentially does have overhead restraints, except they apply rearward/downward force on your thighs instead of your shoulders.
Believe me, once the back restraint is locked in, you're not going anywhere.
Just4Pics
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Let's not forget that Disney's first clone was the Magic Kingdom. They've been doing this for a while...
...and it's been working pretty well.
Absimilliard
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I know some have been calling this a "production model" or some other terms due to the fact other Vekoma Motorbike coasters exist... But its not. If it is, then Space Mountain at DLP is a "standard coaster" too.
Why the comparison? Both started with a "standard" Vekoma line of coaster, Vekoma MK-1200 Looping coaster for Space Mountain and Motorbike Coaster for TRON. What Vekoma did what completely customise both. Brand new, very reliable and efficent LSM launch system for TRON, custom electric catapult for Space Mountain. Trains are completely unique with audio and amazing bodywork for Space, custom cars with wheels and backrests that change colors for TRON. I could go on and on, but Vekoma created a unique product for TRON and we should be thankful WDI and Vekoma came up with it.
The length comment is quite interesting, as its nearly the same track length (3169 feet long) as the Space Mountain coasters at Disney. The Space Mountain clock in between 3259 feet and 3450 feet. Its also longer than the Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at both Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom (2700 feet long in average). So why do the others feel longer than TRON then? TRON efficient launch is the culprit here... You spend so much time on lift hills on the BTMR rides and on the Space Mountain, even the Paris one adds 10-15 seconds to the ride time with the B lift 2/3 of the way.
Why the comparison? Both started with a "standard" Vekoma line of coaster, Vekoma MK-1200 Looping coaster for Space Mountain and Motorbike Coaster for TRON. What Vekoma did what completely customise both. Brand new, very reliable and efficent LSM launch system for TRON, custom electric catapult for Space Mountain. Trains are completely unique with audio and amazing bodywork for Space, custom cars with wheels and backrests that change colors for TRON. I could go on and on, but Vekoma created a unique product for TRON and we should be thankful WDI and Vekoma came up with it.
The length comment is quite interesting, as its nearly the same track length (3169 feet long) as the Space Mountain coasters at Disney. The Space Mountain clock in between 3259 feet and 3450 feet. Its also longer than the Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at both Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom (2700 feet long in average). So why do the others feel longer than TRON then? TRON efficient launch is the culprit here... You spend so much time on lift hills on the BTMR rides and on the Space Mountain, even the Paris one adds 10-15 seconds to the ride time with the B lift 2/3 of the way.
Spike-in-Berlin
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Could someone please explain to me why a TRON coaster has a track that runs partially OUTDOOR? I mean if there is ONE rollercoaster ride that needs an entire indoor track to be fully immersive it's TRON. I don't get it in Shanghai and I don't get it for the rumored TRON ride in Tomorrowland. Light cycles can only exist inside the computer world of TRON and to bring them into the "real" world is perhaps the worst imagineering since the bloody flying carpets on Adventureland Plaza with that tiny-winy Aggrabah section cramped between South Seas and Colonial Africa.
BTW I would really appreciate if they would build the TRON coaster and STILL demolish and replace the TLS! It is such an annoyance with the noise, the waste of space and the lame and by now heavily outdated theme that I even would prefer M+G in this area, just to see it go.
BTW I would really appreciate if they would build the TRON coaster and STILL demolish and replace the TLS! It is such an annoyance with the noise, the waste of space and the lame and by now heavily outdated theme that I even would prefer M+G in this area, just to see it go.
ToTBellHop
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So I've never seen the movies. Is there no "outside" in the computer world? When they go into the computer world, are they always inside a building?
MerlinTheGoat
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There are scenes that take place in a sort of "outside" setting, but it still looks entirely different from the outside of the real world. Specifically, Tron Legacy's world always takes place at night, with stormy clouds. There is no sun (one of the computer programs even mentions wanting to experience sunlight someday). Nor anything plant based or organic. There is a sky and very geometric rock formations. But even those are all still tinted with shades of blue, green and black.
Basically it looks very different from the real world. From what I can see, the outside portion of the ride does get a little better at night, but definitely not appropriate during daytime. Here are good images of what Tron Legacy's computer world looks like in scenes that takes place "outside"-
https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/2010/07/tron_660.jpg
http://www.wordwizardsinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/tron-city-grid-back-end.jpg
lazyboy97o
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The restraints are safe. Over the shoulder restraints have fallen out of fashion and even if this was a coaster with a lot of loops Vekoma’s current restraint would not require over the shoulder (and if they were present it would be for show).
ToTBellHop
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It's a pity they couldn't at least make the dome frosted with some sort of daytime cloud effect.
bclane
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Basically in the movies there is our world and the digital world. There is inside and outside, as well as urban and more wilderness settings, all within the digital world. The programs populating the digital world have personalities and lives kind of like in the Matrix movies. The ride we are getting will take place during the Tron Legacy era within part of a gaming area called the Grid (basically a massive and completely changeable arena for various combat games) that you really have to see to understand.
Mom should ground you for at least a week for never watching Tron! Lol! Seriously though, you will be much more excited for the ride if you at least watch Tron Legacy. You can skip the original Tron if you want and still get Tron Legacy for the most part if you don't want to sit through both of them. I actually love the original Tron but you kind of needed to watch it in the 80s to appreciate it (back when computers where mystery boxes that almost no one understood). It really hasn't aged well... My own kids can't seem to make it through the original (it is kind of a cheese fest by today's standards) but they love Legacy.
DrewmanS
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The POV videos I have seen, I am not sure how much of "outside" you see while on the ride. It looks like the cycles are pointed toward the roof most of the time.
I would guess, the purpose of the outside section is to provide some energy to the park. Walking up to SM is like any other dark ride. Compare that to BTMRR.
Bocabear
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I agree 1000% it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, except to show off the ride system....which is NOT necessary... They could do something unique and amazing and have it circle through an interior restaurant setting that takes place in the grid... a high end futuristic table service restaurant and arcade, then you don't have to have all the light intrusion from going outside, and you are showing off the ride system, and it would make a more cohesive experience overall...
bclane
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The End of Line club from the movie would make a great setting for what you are talking about.
Bocabear
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I agree...an expanded version...People love to eat in immersive environments... This could be the Tomorrowland version of the Blue Bayou in Disneyland...Which (aside from the Mexico pavilion) we do not have on the East coast...
RobbinsDad
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THIS is what I'm talkin about! Take my money now.
bclane
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In my little fantasy world I imagine Daft Punk showing up to the club one day and putting on an unannounced show while we sip on our glowing drinks and lose our fool minds. lol!
bclane
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I 100% agree!
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