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Hand-Painted Art Nouveau "Instagram Walls" Added to France Pavilion at EPCOT

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UNCgolf

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DCBaker said:
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I'm really not a fan of that. Partially because I don't think it fits the aesthetic of the area (especially the second), but moreso because that area isn't very big to begin with and it's going to create serious traffic flow issues if a bunch of people are stopping in the middle to take pictures with a wall.
 
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UNCgolf said:
I'm really not a fan of that. Partially because I don't think it fits the aesthetic of the area (especially the second), but moreso because that area isn't very big to begin with and it's going to create serious traffic flow issues if a bunch of people are stopping in the middle to take pictures with a wall.
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agree, its gaudy and unnecessary when things were just starting to look really nice.
 
UNCgolf

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brihow said:
I would have preferred to see some wheat-pasted street art / advertisemtns, since that seems more fitting.
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They do have some of that on the post in the main part of the pavilion (at least if I'm remembering correctly).

But that does more or less sum up why I don't think it fits. Generally speaking you're not going to have one small brightly painted area on the side of a building. They would either keep the buildings clean of that type of artwork (and based on my experience in Paris, the type of building/area they're attempting to portray would be clean) or it should be completely covered with a variety of things. With that said, if the entire lower part of the building was covered with that type of bright colorful artwork it would still look out of place.
 
EricsBiscuit

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Not sure why adding detail is a problem. Imagine if people said about Main Street “yeah, too nice. It distracts everybody and slows us down as we run towards the castle and the rides!!1!” I hope they add more detail, not less. I’d prefer to have a sensory overload than be underwhelmed. Ideally, there’s a balance. But, I’d posit that the balance leans towards more detail.
 
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EricsBiscuit said:
Not sure why adding detail is a problem. Imagine if people said about Main Street “yeah, too nice. It distracts everybody and slows us down as we run towards the castle and the rides!!1!” I hope they add more detail, not less. I’d prefer to have a sensory overload than be underwhelmed. Ideally, there’s a balance. But, I’d posit that the balance leans towards more detail.
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Ornament is not inherently a detail.
 
EricsBiscuit

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lazyboy97o said:
Even in Classicism ornament has a place. It isn’t just slathered on to hide a bad design decisions.
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I agree to that but I think re Rat we have to understand the context of the expansion. It’s not exactly shoehorned but there are still constraints. I have a soft spot for murals and mosaics so maybe I’m biased but I like seeing Disney do more murals. It’s one thing Disney used to excel at and something I’m glad they’re reviving. From the Fantasia mural at the Welch Grape Juice stand at DL to EC’s glorious murals to this new generation of murals, I love them all.
 
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EricsBiscuit said:
I agree to that but I think re Rat we have to understand the context of the expansion. It’s not exactly shoehorned but there are still constraints. I have a soft spot for murals and mosaics so maybe I’m biased but I like seeing Disney do more murals. It’s one thing Disney used to excel at and something I’m glad they’re reviving. From the Fantasia mural at the Welch Grape Juice stand at DL to EC’s glorious murals to this new generation of murals, I love them all.
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There is nothing about the context of the expansion that required its placement or the insistence on reusing such a lousy facade.
 
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lazyboy97o said:
There is nothing about the context of the expansion that required its placement or the insistence on reusing such a lousy facade.
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I’m sorry. I’m critical when I need to be but I am usually an optimist. It seems like some will continuously find fault in everything Disney does. If they added no details and ornamentation, they would cry “it’s too bland!” When they do add it “they’re just covering their poor design choices.” You just can’t win with these people. As someone who has experience building out successful hospitality enterprises, I can appreciate all the hard work that goes into designing and building these projects (and then maintaining and operating them). It’s one of the reasons I love going to the parks so much. Disney gets a lot of flack from the keyboard warriors at home but in the end it’s Disney who’s making billions every normal year.
 
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EricsBiscuit said:
I’m sorry. I’m critical when I need to be but I am usually an optimist. It seems like some will continuously find fault in everything Disney does. If they added no details and ornamentation, they would cry “it’s too bland!” When they do add it “they’re just covering their poor design choices.” You just can’t win with these people. As someone who has experience building out successful hospitality enterprises, I can appreciate all the hard work that goes into designing and building these projects (and then maintaining and operating them). It’s one of the reasons I love going to the parks so much. Disney gets a lot of flack from the keyboard warriors at home but in the end it’s Disney who’s making billions every normal year.
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I’m well aware of what goes into a project. I’ve explained in detail why projects like this and TRON cannot just be dropped into place. Whether or not ornament is appropriate is entirely dependent on the story being told. Forcing people to walk around the pavilion was not a necessity. Keeping an old, poorly designed facade that is not integral to the theater’s building envelope was not a necessity with hundreds of millions of dollars.
 
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EricsBiscuit said:
I’m sorry. I’m critical when I need to be but I am usually an optimist. It seems like some will continuously find fault in everything Disney does. If they added no details and ornamentation, they would cry “it’s too bland!” When they do add it “they’re just covering their poor design choices.” You just can’t win with these people. As someone who has experience building out successful hospitality enterprises, I can appreciate all the hard work that goes into designing and building these projects (and then maintaining and operating them). It’s one of the reasons I love going to the parks so much. Disney gets a lot of flack from the keyboard warriors at home but in the end it’s Disney who’s making billions every normal year.
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Here here!
 
UNCgolf

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EricsBiscuit said:
I’m sorry. I’m critical when I need to be but I am usually an optimist. It seems like some will continuously find fault in everything Disney does. If they added no details and ornamentation, they would cry “it’s too bland!” When they do add it “they’re just covering their poor design choices.” You just can’t win with these people. As someone who has experience building out successful hospitality enterprises, I can appreciate all the hard work that goes into designing and building these projects (and then maintaining and operating them). It’s one of the reasons I love going to the parks so much. Disney gets a lot of flack from the keyboard warriors at home but in the end it’s Disney who’s making billions every normal year.
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But it wasn't too bland before; it looked okay the way it was (certainly not perfect, but better than it does now).

Plus, this is supposed to look like Paris, at least to an extent. The wall painting doesn't fit just like it wouldn't fit if they painted a bunch of stuff on the American Adventure brickwork, because it would actually detract from what the building is supposed to be rather than enhancing it.
 
brihow

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EricsBiscuit said:
Not sure why adding detail is a problem. Imagine if people said about Main Street “yeah, too nice. It distracts everybody and slows us down as we run towards the castle and the rides!!1!” I hope they add more detail, not less. I’d prefer to have a sensory overload than be underwhelmed. Ideally, there’s a balance. But, I’d posit that the balance leans towards more detail.
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Don't even THINK about comparing this expansion to the absolute perfection of Main St. USA.
 
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Sneak peek of the ride will air during ABC's “The Wonderful World of Disney: Magical Holiday Celebration” on Thanksgiving Night

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A “sneak peek”? 😂😂

It’s a clone of the ride at DLP, there are full ride videos available. But sure Disney, you promote it as a sneak peek. 🤦🏽‍♀️
 

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