News Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

[Jones14]

An E-ticket by 2025 that is not-yet-announced is likely. Obviously the current pace can’t be maintained, but annual additions with significant projects every 2-3 years is the plan. As it used to be and always should be.

This. An E-Ticket opening every year isn’t feasible for eternity, but with 4 parks, there should always be something new.

Hopefully they’ll take advantage of the added capacity to refresh some of the older E-Tickets. I can live without a new ride in Magic Kingdom for a bit if Big Thunder and Space Mountain are looking and feeling brand new.

 

[Princess Leia]

This. An E-Ticket opening every year isn’t feasible for eternity, but with 4 parks, there should always be something new.

Hopefully they’ll take advantage of the added capacity to refresh some of the older E-Tickets. I can live without a new ride in Magic Kingdom for a bit if Big Thunder and Space Mountain are looking and feeling brand new.

It doesn’t even have to be an E ticket a year. I would be perfectly happy with some new Cs and Ds in the mix.

 

[Purduevian]

This. An E-Ticket opening every year isn’t feasible for eternity, but with 4 parks, there should always be something new.

I would argue an E-ticket in 1 of the 4 parks every year should honestly be the standard. My seasonal hometown park (Cedar point) has put an "E" ticket in 3 of the past 6 years. Disney should be doing this FOR EACH PARK.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I would argue an E-ticket in 1 of the 4 parks every year should honestly be the standard. My seasonal hometown park (Cedar point) has put an "E" ticket in 3 of the past 6 years. Disney should be doing this FOR EACH PARK.

Disney Es now cost $200 million or more, however. Where should ticket prices land?

 

[Purduevian]

Disney Es now cost $200 million or more, however. Where should ticket prices land?

And Cedar Points last 3 E tickets were all around $30 million. Cedar point 2017 attendance (according to TEA report)= 3,604,000 with a gate ticket price of $67 for $241,468,000 in ticket prices. Magic Kingdom alone had an attendance of 20,450,000 with ~$80 gate price (depending on season, number of days bought, ect) for a total of $1,636,000,000. In ticket sales, Magic Kingdom makes roughly 6.75 times more than Cedar point in ticket sales. Thus each $30 million E ticket from CP is the equivalent of a $203 million E ticket for MK (3 over the course of 6 years)... looks like the prices are right about where they should be for this to happen.

Note: I don't think Ticket price is a great indicator of revenue generated by each park because:

• MK probably has a higher operating cost
• MK probably has much higher average guest spending (merchandise and food)
• MK has 4083 hotels connected by monorail or boat, compared to CPs less than 2,500
• Rooms at the MK resorts are much more expensive than CPs

Money and Ticket Prices are not the issues for adding an E ticket every 2-3 years in each park.

 

[marni1971]

Disney Es now cost $200 million or more, however. Where should ticket prices land?

There’s no one to blame but themselves.

 

[larryz]

There’s no one to blame but themselves.

But that's the Disney Difference, now, isn't it? Cedar Point puts up a coaster while WDW puts up a mountain with a themed queue, gift shop, sound effects and costumed operating staff.

 

[marni1971]

But that's the Disney Difference, now, isn't it?

If that now means inflated price tags, yes.

 

[Epcot_Imagineer]

If that now means inflated price tags, yes.

Where are the inflated prices coming from? Mismanagement? Contractors boosting prices when they get a call from the mouse?

 

[ToTBellHop]

There’s no reason a ride like TRON should cost more than $100 million. And yet...

 

[larryz]

If that now means inflated price tags, yes.

Mountains (with coasters in them) are more expensive than coasters.

 

[marni1971]

Mountains (with coasters in them) are more expensive than coasters.

Tell that to BTM.

What’s 17 million in 1980 adjusted for today? Not 400.

 

[Dunston]

There’s no one to blame but themselves.

That makes sense... Stretching construction over several fiscal periods would likely drive up the total cost of construction, right?

 

[larryz]

Tell that to BTM.

What’s 17 million in 1980 adjusted for today? Not 400.

Since you asked...

Still more expensive than a $30 million plain Jane coaster.

 

[marni1971]

Since you asked...
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Still more expensive than a $30 million plain Jane coaster.

Exactly. Thank you.

 

[Missing20K]

But that's the Disney Difference, now, isn't it? Cedar Point puts up a coaster while WDW puts up a mountain box with a themed queue, gift shop, sound effects and costumed operating staff.

FTFY

 

[Mike S]

Exactly. Thank you.

So where does that all go?

 

[eddie104]

And Cedar Points last 3 E tickets were all around $30 million. Cedar point 2017 attendance (according to TEA report)= 3,604,000 with a gate ticket price of $67 for $241,468,000 in ticket prices. Magic Kingdom alone had an attendance of 20,450,000 with ~$80 gate price (depending on season, number of days bought, ect) for a total of $1,636,000,000. In ticket sales, Magic Kingdom makes roughly 6.75 times more than Cedar point in ticket sales. Thus each $30 million E ticket from CP is the equivalent of a $203 million E ticket for MK (3 over the course of 6 years)... looks like the prices are right about where they should be for this to happen.

Note: I don't think Ticket price is a great indicator of revenue generated by each park because:

• MK probably has a higher operating cost
• MK probably has much higher average guest spending (merchandise and food)
• MK has 4083 hotels connected by monorail or boat, compared to CPs less than 2,500
• Rooms at the MK resorts are much more expensive than CPs

Money and Ticket Prices are not the issues for adding an E ticket every 2-3 years in each park.

You just changed what you said to one E should open in each park every year to now every 2-3 which everybody agrees with. So why the comparison to Cedar point ? The parks are the complete opposites of each other.

 

[larryz]

FTFY

I'll agree with mountainous box...

 

[larryz]

So where does that all go?

I think @marni1971 is saying that either Disney is grossly inflating its expenditures on new attractions (for what purpose is anybody's guess) or is squandering money like a drunken sailor who's been out at sea too long.