News Reimagined Toontown coming

CaptinEO

CaptinEO

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TP2000 said:
So shouldn't WDW have twice as many rides as Disneyland then?
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And lets not forger that the Disney World parks are magnitudes bigger than Disneyland in square footage.

  • Disneyland [resort] is 500 acres in size.
  • Disney World is much larger, at 30,080 acres.

    www.nerdwallet.com

    Disney World vs. Disneyland Size - NerdWallet

    When comparing Disney World size vs. Disneyland, it's clear that the original Disney theme park covers much less acreage than its Orlando-based counterpart.
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    • The SMALLEST Disney theme park in the world is Disney California Adventure - 55 acres (not counting the Cars Land expansion, which is not open at this time);
    • Hong Kong Disneyland - approximately 60 acres (55 not counting the new Toy Story PlayLand);
    • Walt Disney Studios Paris - 62 acres;
    • Disneyland Park (California) - 85 acres;
    • Tokyo DisneySea - 122 acres;
    • Tokyo Disneyland - 126 acres, and Disneyland Paris - 126 acres;
    • Magic Kingdom - 142 acres;
    • Disney’s Hollywood Studios - 154 acres;
    • Epcot - 300 acres;
    • The BIGGEST Disney theme park in the world is Disney’s Animal Kingdom Theme Park- 500 acres.
    • https://www.orlandoparksnews.com/2012/02/fun-fact-comparing-size-of-disneys.html?m=1







 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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MisterPenguin said:
TDO has as many rides as TDA, plus more non-ride attractions. It's just spread over 4 parks than 2.
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The Florida parks really haven’t expanded well though compared to California.

Even though I don’t agree with some of the rethemes at DCA - that’s still such a solid park for its size. 19 attractions you can ride, plus a 3d show, animation building, playhouse, and a walk-through. (23 attractions, 24 when Hyperion is operating).

Compare that directly to DHS with 9 attractions you can ride, 3d show, playhouse, walk-through, 3 stage shows, cars show, Mickey shorts and I guess launch bay? - 18 attractions and that’s pretty generous. (Mickey shorts and launch bay are both a stretch).
 
MisterPenguin

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TrainsOfDisney said:
The Florida parks really haven’t expanded well though compared to California.

Even though I don’t agree with some of the rethemes at DCA - that’s still such a solid park for its size. 19 attractions you can ride, plus a 3d show, animation building, playhouse, and a walk-through. (23 attractions, 24 when Hyperion is operating).

Compare that directly to DHS with 9 attractions you can ride, 3d show, playhouse, walk-through, 3 stage shows, cars show, Mickey shorts and I guess launch bay? - 18 attractions and that’s pretty generous. (Mickey shorts and launch bay are both a stretch).
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DHS is indeed the weakest. It's *extra *should be lots of shows, but with an empty theater and a outdoor musical that's very long in the tooth, it's missing the extra attractions to bring it on par with the other parks.

I suppose TWDC is looking at the cost of the 2 new lands and thinking it's even.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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TP2000 said:
It's not. MMRR at DHS is hemmed in all sides by existing park areas they just built and/or remodeled extensively. Namely, Toy Story Land and Galaxy's Edge.

This is what makes the WDW parks so hilariously bad at what they do and how they offer it. They've got all the land that Walt could imagine to buy, and yet they build these parks with only 6 or 8 rides and then design them so they can't do much beyond even that. They simply aren't good at it in WDW.

TDO appears to have absolutely no idea what it's doing with many of their parks and many of their long-term decisions.
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I just checked out a map. Pixar Plaza and the Animation Courtyard look pretty expendable to me. The only real sacrifice would be The Hollywood Derby (and maybe One Mans Dream depending on how much people are attached to that) unless I'm missing something? Not that Toontown would be worth the effort or justify existing in that premium real estate but it does appear like MMRR is surrounded by some expendable stuff. Whether it's feasible or not for Tonntown to be carved into that real estate is another question. If they ever did bring Toontown to DHS they would definitely have to bring it over with at least a D ticket or Roger Rabbit equivalent or it would be pretty anticlimactic.
 
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Purduevian

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TP2000 said:
It's not. MMRR at DHS is hemmed in all sides by existing park areas they just built and/or remodeled extensively. Namely, Toy Story Land and Galaxy's Edge.
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Red is MMRR
Dark blue is basically unused (closed theater, SW launch bay, and backstage)
Teal I think is Disney jr, but i'm not sure how much it and Brown derby split the building. Regardless disney Jr. could live in Toontown
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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truecoat said:
If they hadn't built Star Wars and Toy Story at DHS, both that and Animal Kingdom were half-day parks.
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DHS didn’t gain much with that attraction count wise. Plus the stunt show and tram tour were both people eaters.

Rise should have gone where Indy is, Mickeys runaway should have gone where launch bay is.

As part of building mickeys runaway and Toy Story land, they could have built areas the tram tour goes through “now entering Disney Animation studios where it was all started by a mouse” and “here we enter the world of Pixar, where it was all started by a toy!”
 
BrianLo

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TP2000 said:
So shouldn't WDW have twice as many rides as Disneyland then?
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MisterPenguin said:
No, the extra attractions make up for it. The zoo, the world fair, 2 nightly fireworks.

Tho, I do agree that the rides aren't properly distributed among the parks.
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I think you are both right. No park in WDW warrants the sheer density of Disneyland. Things get undercounted at WDW, like shows and certainly World Showcase and Animal Kingdom's Zoo are not weighted adequately in a basic ride count.

But WDW should probably have 3/4 of the ride density that DLR has. Aka 50% more than it does currently. Most prominently DHS and DAK need sheer ride count work, though every park at WDW still deserves 'more'.

Truly Disneyland (the mess that is Tomorrowland aside) is just about the only park that honestly has enough... not that I'd turn my nose down at more.
 
Professortango1

Professortango1

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JenniferS said:
One still is.
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I'd call both half day parks. I went a few years ago and we were done by 2. We were going to wait around until Fantasmic, but we got tired of just riding the same things over and over. The only difference is now they have a spinner, a child coaster, Rise, and Falcon. That might add another 2-3 hours. It still wouldn't be dark by the time we were done. Especially as we wouldn't likely waste time on Muppets, Star Tours, Alien Spinning Saucers, or Slinky Dog.

For us, the only full day park was Epcot. That thing takes time. Even Magic Kingdom we easily did everything, including Storytime with Belle and CBJ.
 

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