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mickEblu

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I don’t think putting Jessica Rabbit in a trench coat was really needed at all for the exact reason stated above: it is accepted iconography.

However, they absolutely should continue to address sensitivity issues in the parks. That doesn’t need to go away.

I just don’t think Jessica Rabbit was an actual sensitivity issue. It was anticipation of one that wasn’t there when there’s plenty of other stuff even in the nearby area at Disneyland that needs some addressing.

Continue? What’s left to address? I guess there will always be plenty left for as long as the inclusion committee or whatever they’re called want to stay employed. Really wouldn’t behoove them to say “well, we did it, we erased everything that was problematic.”
 

Mr. Sullivan

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Continue? What’s left to address? I guess there will always be plenty left for as long as the inclusion committee or whatever they’re called want to stay employed. Really wouldn’t behoove them to say “well, we did it, we erased everything that was problematic.”
That incredibly racist doll in Pinocchio is what sticks out the most to me, especially since it isn’t at all an important aspect of the ride and can literally just be taken out in about 5 minutes.

They’ve already initiated the change to Peter Pan, but I absolutely would’ve said go there well before you go anywhere near Jessica Rabbit.

On the same Peter Pan wavelength, the whole park’s entire approach to native culture I think could use a little reworking, though it is not nearly (not even close actually) as questionable as it was before the turn of the century.

There are some genuinely outdated things at Disney parks all over the world that range from tiny to fairly glaring. But Jessica Rabbit was not one of them. Instead of actually taking a look at things that actually did have a history of complaints and commentary such as Peter Pan, they addressed something that I doubt seriously crossed anyone’s mind because Jessica Rabbit’s dress has never really been the subject of debate.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
That incredibly racist doll in Pinocchio is what sticks out the most to me, especially since it isn’t at all an important aspect of the ride and can literally just be taken out in about 5 minutes.

They’ve already initiated the change to Peter Pan, but I absolutely would’ve said go there well before you go anywhere near Jessica Rabbit.

On the same Peter Pan wavelength, the whole park’s entire approach to native culture I think could use a little reworking, though it is not nearly (not even close actually) as questionable as it was before the turn of the century.

There are some genuinely outdated things at Disney parks all over the world that range from tiny to fairly glaring. But Jessica Rabbit was not one of them. Instead of actually taking a look at things that actually did have a history of complaints and commentary such as Peter Pan, they addressed something that I doubt seriously crossed anyone’s mind because Jessica Rabbit’s dress has never really been the subject of debate.

Ok so the racist doll of which I have no clue what you re talking about (dolls can be racist?) and Peter Pan and they re done? The committee can pack it up and go home?
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Ok so the racist doll of which I have no clue what you re talking about (dolls can be racist?) and Peter Pan and they re done? The committee can pack it up and go home?
I believe they are speaking of this doll, which is an based off an old racist caricature of a china man -

pinocchio.jpg
 

Brer Panther

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The thing that baffles me about the Jessica Rabbit thing was that they were hyping it up as though they were reworking the whole ride and making her the protagonist. And then all we got was one new animatronic to replace the one in the trunk of the weasels' car and a trenchcoat put on the one with the mallet.
 

mickEblu

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Not that this is high on their priority list but I'd love to see some MMRR plussing in the future. I wonder what the perception of the ride is in the halls of WDI. Do they think it's great or do they know it can be much better? For me, the biggest offenders on the ride are the Wild West and Carnival scenes. Too big and bare and the former is too bright. One easy thing they can do is make the Wild West scene take place at night. It's too bright and exposes all the flaws even more. Im talking about the seams between screens and the warehouse feel. Fixing those two scenes and maybe giving the ride a better climax would go a long way. Daisy's Dance Studio isn't my favorite but it does serve a purpose. Imagine if instead we had a Donald AA in there and he gets mad and we go bouncing around the room chasing projections of Chip n Dale. I forget, was MMRR designed for DL or DHS first? I know DHS got it first but just wondering if Donalds presence is so light on MMRR because they thought they were going to move forward with the Ducktales ride next door.
 

mickEblu

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The thing that baffles me about the Jessica Rabbit thing was that they were hyping it up as though they were reworking the whole ride and making her the protagonist. And then all we got was one new animatronic to replace the one in the trunk of the weasels' car and a trenchcoat put on the one with the mallet.

Im guessing they started to ask themselves if spending any money to rework RRCTS was worth it and thought that retheming it to a more relevant IP is was the better the choice. In other words, the Committee being bored "that day" and putting Jessica Rabbit in a trenchcoat almost put an entire ride in Yesterland. Lol. Wild.
 
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