News Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious

Movielover

Movielover

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Inspired Figment said:
Look at what Universal was stuck on doing for a while… an over reliance on cheap, screen based simulators, all simply with different characters, settings and themes, that people rightfully complained about for feeling way too similar to one another and not being worth the price of admission.
They’ve now since tried to do more ambitious, more elaborate attractions featuring audio-animatronics and unique ride systems, which has ultimately paid off in the end.
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Slight divergence here but I keep hearing this argument that for awhile Universal did nothing but screen simulators and it's really nagging at me. Lets take a look here.

Universal Studios Florida opened in 1990, out of the 5 non-live show attractions only 1 was a simulator, The Funtastic World of Hannah Barbara. The other 4 were extremely complex and amazing AA/Effects rides of Kongfrontation, E.T., Earthquake, and JAWS.
1991 Back to the Future opens and is a huge hit as the second simulator ride. During the past year all 4 AA/effects rides had been going through extreme growing pains, with JAWS flat out having to be closed and many elements taken back to the drawing broad.
The next simulator attraction to open was not until 2003 with Jimmy Neutron replacing Hannah Barbara. By this time Universal had reopened JAWS, opened Men In Black, opened/renovated multiple shows like Terminator and Twister and built Islands of Adventure next door without a single simulator attraction.
Fast Forward to 2008 when Simpsons replaces Back to the Future (R.I.P.) This still means the total amount of simulator rides in Universal Orland is 2.
The year of our destruction 2012 rolls around and Despicable Me opens, replacing Jimmy Neutron. Please remember that during time between Jimmy's opening and closing that Universal opened Revenge of the Mummy, Rip Ride Rocket, High in the Sky Trolley Ride, and renovates and opens Harry Potter in IoA.
In 2015 Race For Your Life opens, becoming the 3rd simulator in the Universal Florida resort.

And that's where we are at, 3 screen based simulator rides out of the entire resort. Every other ride has vehicle motion and effects/AA's that make it not a screen based simulator. Kind of puts them equal to Disney with Soarin, Star Tours, and Smugglers Run, although you can make the argument that Smugglers Run is more advance with the whole turntable system.
 
marni1971

marni1971

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Premium Member
Movielover said:
Slight divergence here but I keep hearing this argument that for awhile Universal did nothing but screen simulators and it's really nagging at me. Lets take a look here.

Universal Studios Florida opened in 1990, out of the 5 non-live show attractions only 1 was a simulator, The Funtastic World of Hannah Barbara. The other 4 were extremely complex and amazing AA/Effects rides of Kongfrontation, E.T., Earthquake, and JAWS.
1991 Back to the Future opens and is a huge hit as the second simulator ride. During the past year all 4 AA/effects rides had been going through extreme growing pains, with JAWS flat out having to be closed and many elements taken back to the drawing broad.
The next simulator attraction to open was not until 2003 with Jimmy Neutron replacing Hannah Barbara. By this time Universal had reopened JAWS, opened Men In Black, opened/renovated multiple shows like Terminator and Twister and built Islands of Adventure next door without a single simulator attraction.
Fast Forward to 2008 when Simpsons replaces Back to the Future (R.I.P.) This still means the total amount of simulator rides in Universal Orland is 2.
The year of our destruction 2012 rolls around and Despicable Me opens, replacing Jimmy Neutron. Please remember that during time between Jimmy's opening and closing that Universal opened Revenge of the Mummy, Rip Ride Rocket, High in the Sky Trolley Ride, and renovates and opens Harry Potter in IoA.
In 2015 Race For Your Life opens, becoming the 3rd simulator in the Universal Florida resort.

And that's where we are at, 3 screen based simulator rides out of the entire resort. Every other ride has vehicle motion and effects/AA's that make it not a screen based simulator. Kind of puts them equal to Disney with Soarin, Star Tours, and Smugglers Run, although you can make the argument that Smugglers Run is more advance with the whole turntable system.
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Don’t forget the literal PITA that is Shrek. Or maybe that’s a good thing.

SLOP and the physical JW additions show they can still do it when they want to mind.
 
zoso

zoso

Member
Inspired Figment said:
I wouldn’t be so sure about that in all honesty…. Particularly considering how it looks the majority of the day in the lagoon. Not to mention, if the songs & the overall message/plot & content of this thing isn’t unique enough from the other shows around property… I don’t expect it to be ‘that’ popular.
It’s one thing to be technically impressive… but if every other aspect of the show fails… then it’s a flop.
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Have we seen what it looks like in full day fountain mode? I know we’ve seen them testing bits and pieces, but I feel like the final product hasn’t been shown off yet
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
Movielover said:
Slight divergence here but I keep hearing this argument that for awhile Universal did nothing but screen simulators and it's really nagging at me. Lets take a look here.

Universal Studios Florida opened in 1990, out of the 5 non-live show attractions only 1 was a simulator, The Funtastic World of Hannah Barbara. The other 4 were extremely complex and amazing AA/Effects rides of Kongfrontation, E.T., Earthquake, and JAWS.
1991 Back to the Future opens and is a huge hit as the second simulator ride. During the past year all 4 AA/effects rides had been going through extreme growing pains, with JAWS flat out having to be closed and many elements taken back to the drawing broad.
The next simulator attraction to open was not until 2003 with Jimmy Neutron replacing Hannah Barbara. By this time Universal had reopened JAWS, opened Men In Black, opened/renovated multiple shows like Terminator and Twister and built Islands of Adventure next door without a single simulator attraction.
Fast Forward to 2008 when Simpsons replaces Back to the Future (R.I.P.) This still means the total amount of simulator rides in Universal Orland is 2.
The year of our destruction 2012 rolls around and Despicable Me opens, replacing Jimmy Neutron. Please remember that during time between Jimmy's opening and closing that Universal opened Revenge of the Mummy, Rip Ride Rocket, High in the Sky Trolley Ride, and renovates and opens Harry Potter in IoA.
In 2015 Race For Your Life opens, becoming the 3rd simulator in the Universal Florida resort.

And that's where we are at, 3 screen based simulator rides out of the entire resort. Every other ride has vehicle motion and effects/AA's that make it not a screen based simulator. Kind of puts them equal to Disney with Soarin, Star Tours, and Smugglers Run, although you can make the argument that Smugglers Run is more advance with the whole turntable system.
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This is technically true, but it doesn't really tell the whole story. Many of the other recent Universal rides, while not 100% screens, rely heavily on them. AAs and other effects tend to be supplemental to the screens instead of vice versa, which is the problem. Using screens as a supplement works great; making them the main focus turns most rides into a bore (there are exceptions, of course).

It's the biggest reason Universal doesn't do much for me; my favorite ride there is the Jurassic Park River Adventure.
 
CastAStone

CastAStone

5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
Squishy said:
What's missing?
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Just watching Steve’s video, it sure looked like they have more work to do to sync up the various forms of fireworks. And watching the daytime fountain tests, those can’t possible be fully tuned up either (I hope).

that’s probably not going to take them four months mind you, but I would think they would want to test it again
 
TTA94

TTA94

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marni1971 said:
Some stuff. And some of this. And a bit of that.
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How about making the holiday tag pyro finales a nightly thing? Lol. Now that would be amazing! Yeah I know they couldn’t afford to do that nightly. While last nights Harm testing did seem impressive, I don’t think even that will compare.
 
TTA94

TTA94

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marni1971 said:
The tag was impressive before it was watered down. Bit like Wishes and RoE really.
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Do you think they will continue the tags, mostly the 4th and NYE ones with Harmonious? I suppose a different show entirely could happen down the road, in particular a Holiday version, for better or for worse lol.
 
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jrhwdw

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mnelson3 said:
How about making the holiday tag pyro finales a nightly thing? Lol. Now that would be amazing! Yeah I know they couldn’t afford to do that nightly. While last nights Harm testing did seem impressive, I don’t think even that will compare.
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Unless my mind is playing tricks, were the Tag Barges out last night? it seemed there was more than the 4 main launches that Harm got from ROE at some parts of Steve's Video .
 
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jrhwdw

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mnelson3 said:
Do you think they will continue the tags, mostly the 4th and NYE ones with Harmonious? I suppose a different show entirely could happen down the road, in particular a Holiday version, for better or for worse lol.
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They should in my mind! Epcot does have a great reputation when it comes to Tags! And it might be the only non IP Part of Harm! LOL!!!!
 
marni1971

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
mnelson3 said:
Do you think they will continue the tags, mostly the 4th and NYE ones with Harmonious? I suppose a different show entirely could happen down the road, in particular a Holiday version, for better or for worse lol.
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Pass. I dare say there will be a 4th show next year. And a NYE show this year.

In the meantime.... not long to go for your whizz bangs.
 
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jrhwdw

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marni1971 said:
Pass. I dare say there will be a 4th show next year. And a NYE show this year.

In the meantime.... not long to go for your whizz bangs.
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Since WSL has a new setup, should we look for New Tags? Or the Usual? I'm fine with the Usual, just wondering.





This Is WONDERFUL!!!!!! All I need is a good week next week and everything will be on the way to resolving!!!
 
TTA94

TTA94

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After trying to make out as much of the music from last night as possible, its sounds very, slow. Nothing upbeat and fun. Hopefully I’m wrong.
 

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