EPCOT Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious

Doberge

True Bayou Magic
Disney usually makes a huge order for pyro and stores it, correct?

If that's correct, doesn't it make sense to run a smaller order to see what works and doesn't work before making final decisions on a final larger order that probably needs a good bit of lead time before delivery, meaning we're still still a good bit away?
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Fair. So it’s all-Mickey-all-the-time from here on out? Sweet! 😆

Pirates of the Mickey! The Mickey Mansion! Guardians of the Mickey! Mickey’s Ratatouille Adventure! Rise of the Mickey!
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ABQ

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Doberge

True Bayou Magic
They don’t want fireworks jam-packed at first. A brand new show would be jam-packed.
If they'd prefer a low density nighttime "spectacular" then Rivers of Light out of retirement is now confirmed 🤣

But really, I'm not sure they can bring back any night show without jam packed crowds. Bob and Bob could sing the best of Disney duets on the castle stage and it'd pack the hub if fireworks were promised.

Fantasmic is theoretically the best first choice to return because the crowd is the easiest to control.
 

jrhwdw

Well-Known Member
A couple things:

1) they don’t want fireworks jam-packed at first. A brand new show would be jam-packed. I’m sure they’d rather wait until capacity is much higher
2) parks are already running out of park passes. What would the financial benefit be for a new show? Best to push it later to drive demand. Bringing fireworks back this summer is meant to spread guests out throughout the day, bring back a guest favorite, and was originally envisaged to help them develop crowd control strategies for the 50th, which was initially expected to still have social distancing. That’s no longer the case but the firework calendar was set and they’ll stick with it.
NOT to give TDO any ideas since I'm feeling better about our HEA Chances but, No Way HEA reopens to a quiet/dead MK! EF/Harm might have a better chance with how big WSL's viewing is.
 
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Movielover

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Look at what Universal was stuck on doing for a while… an over reliance on cheap, screen based simulators, all simply with different characters, settings and themes, that people rightfully complained about for feeling way too similar to one another and not being worth the price of admission.
They’ve now since tried to do more ambitious, more elaborate attractions featuring audio-animatronics and unique ride systems, which has ultimately paid off in the end.

Slight divergence here but I keep hearing this argument that for awhile Universal did nothing but screen simulators and it's really nagging at me. Lets take a look here.

Universal Studios Florida opened in 1990, out of the 5 non-live show attractions only 1 was a simulator, The Funtastic World of Hannah Barbara. The other 4 were extremely complex and amazing AA/Effects rides of Kongfrontation, E.T., Earthquake, and JAWS.
1991 Back to the Future opens and is a huge hit as the second simulator ride. During the past year all 4 AA/effects rides had been going through extreme growing pains, with JAWS flat out having to be closed and many elements taken back to the drawing broad.
The next simulator attraction to open was not until 2003 with Jimmy Neutron replacing Hannah Barbara. By this time Universal had reopened JAWS, opened Men In Black, opened/renovated multiple shows like Terminator and Twister and built Islands of Adventure next door without a single simulator attraction.
Fast Forward to 2008 when Simpsons replaces Back to the Future (R.I.P.) This still means the total amount of simulator rides in Universal Orland is 2.
The year of our destruction 2012 rolls around and Despicable Me opens, replacing Jimmy Neutron. Please remember that during time between Jimmy's opening and closing that Universal opened Revenge of the Mummy, Rip Ride Rocket, High in the Sky Trolley Ride, and renovates and opens Harry Potter in IoA.
In 2015 Race For Your Life opens, becoming the 3rd simulator in the Universal Florida resort.

And that's where we are at, 3 screen based simulator rides out of the entire resort. Every other ride has vehicle motion and effects/AA's that make it not a screen based simulator. Kind of puts them equal to Disney with Soarin, Star Tours, and Smugglers Run, although you can make the argument that Smugglers Run is more advance with the whole turntable system.
 

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