News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Middle name wouldn't be Chad, would it?

…so well played

 

[Figgy1]

…so well played

Thank you kind sir!

 

[mf1972]

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this comes to mind also

 

[LAKid53]

That should help him run for Governor again in 2030. For 2024 that base seems to prefer the original…..not the cheap cover band

He'd better decide then if he's running. Once he surpasses the 6 year mark, even if he resigns, he's limited to 2 consecutive 4 year terms. And he actually has to resign.

 

[GoofGoof]

He'd better decide then if he's running. Once he surpasses the 6 year mark, even if he resigns, he's limited to 2 consecutive 4 year terms. And he actually has to resign.

2030 would be non-consecutive if he’s done in 2026.

 

[James Alucobond]

There's a reason the governor signed the bill around 11 PM with no accompanying press conference.

A very literal eleventh hour action, one might say.

 

[LAKid53]

2030 would be non-consecutive if he’s done in 2026.

No Florida governor in recent history has run for a 3rd non-consecutive term.

Floridians passed term limits for members of the Legislature in 1992. While the Legislature has made it more difficult for citizen initiatives to get on the ballot, there's probably enough sentiment to clear up that portion of the FL Constitution for governor. And frankly, so should the language that became law from Amendment 9 that allows a term limited member of the Legislature to return after sitting out 2 years.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No Florida governor in recent history has run for a 3rd non-consecutive term.

Floridians passed term limits for members of the Legislature in 1992. While the Legislature has made it more difficult for citizen initiatives to get on the ballot, there's probably enough sentiment to clear up that portion of the FL Constitution for governor. And frankly, so should the language that became law from Amendment 9 that allows a term limited member of the Legislature to return after sitting out 2 years.

This one is easy to predict…like house money

 

[RebelAlliance1074]

Agree!

I wish the largest private employer would also stop trying to score cheap political points as well!

So, how is Disney trying to score political points?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Agree!

I wish the largest private employer would also stop trying to score cheap political points as well!

…this one aged like Maytag blue

 

[Chi84]

Can someone help me with some info circling back to their plan to limit district businesses from having Covid policies for customers? Is there a precedent for this? Is it allowed by the charter? I would like to address the board meeting on Wednesday about this but I need help with talking points. I just feel this creates a very dangerous precedent and something the district shouldn’t have the authority over.

@lazyboy97o could you shed some more light?

I looked over the charter. The main section on the district's powers is section 9 on pp.26-30. The listed powers are (1) to engage in legal proceedings (2) maintain a corporate seal (3) own and dispose of property (4) lease facilities (5) exercise powers of eminent domain (6) powers relating to reclamation, drainage and irrigation (7) water and flood control (8) water and sewer systems (9) waste collection and disposal (10) mosquito and pest control (11) airport facilities (12) recreation facilities - this one allows the district to own, acquire, build, maintain and operate parks, golf courses, museums, convention halls and all other types of facilities (13) parking facilities (14) fire protection (15) advertising (16) transportation (17) public utilities (18) conservation and sanctuaries (19) issue bonds and (20) other powers and research and development - this is a catch-all that allows the district to develop and utilize new concepts, designs and ideas.

I'm not finding any basis in the powers listed above for prohibiting a business operating in the district from adopting health mitigation measures.

Section 23 "Planning; Building Codes; Safety Regulations; Platting and Subdivisions; Zoning" has subsection (9) that states : "Any regulations adopted pursuant to the provisions of this section relating to safety, health, sanitation or building safety shall prescribe standards at least equivalent to the minimum standards in applicable statewide regulations protecting the general safety and welfare of the public." So I guess if the state somehow declares flu-type disease mitigation measures detrimental to the general safety and welfare of the public, this might fit. I'd like to say that last sentence was a joke, but . . .

I think you would be well within your rights to ask what in the charter gives them authority for what they said they were going to do. If they give you one, get bold and ask for the section that lets them control Disney's content.

 

[tissandtully]

I looked over the charter. The main section on the district's powers is section 9 on pp.26-30. The listed powers are (1) to engage in legal proceedings (2) maintain a corporate seal (3) own and dispose of property (4) lease facilities (5) exercise powers of eminent domain (6) powers relating to reclamation, drainage and irrigation (7) water and flood control (8) water and sewer systems (9) waste collection and disposal (10) mosquito and pest control (11) airport facilities (12) recreation facilities - this one allows the district to own, acquire, build, maintain and operate parks, golf courses, museums, convention halls and all other types of facilities (13) parking facilities (14) fire protection (15) advertising (16) transportation (17) public utilities (18) conservation and sanctuaries (19) issue bonds and (20) other powers and research and development - this is a catch-all that allows the district to develop and utilize new concepts, designs and ideas.

I'm not finding any basis in the powers listed above for prohibiting a business operating in the district from adopting health mitigation measures.

Section 23 "Planning; Building Codes; Safety Regulations; Platting and Subdivisions; Zoning" has subsection (9) that states : "Any regulations adopted pursuant to the provisions of this section relating to safety, health, sanitation or building safety shall prescribe standards at least equivalent to the minimum standards in applicable statewide regulations protecting the general safety and welfare of the public." So I guess if the state somehow declares flu-type disease mitigation measures detrimental to the general safety and welfare of the public, this might fit. I'd like to say that last sentence was a joke, but . . .

I think you would be well within your rights to ask what in the charter gives them authority for what they said they were going to do. If they give you one, get bold and ask for the section that lets them control Disney's content.

You all seem to forget they will just give themselves that power.

 

[Chi84]

You all seem to forget they will just give themselves that power.

No, I was just answering the poster's question about the charter. I'm well aware . . .

 

[JAB]

So the government claims...

"The contracts aren't valid."

...but they are also trying to pass a (possibly unconstitutional) bill to allow them to retroactively void the contracts... which would only be necessary if the contracts are actually valid in the first place.

...and now the AG is claiming that the powers granted by the contracts (arguably) might subject Disney to public document reporting requirements which, again, could only possibly apply if the contracts are valid.

So which is it? Are the contracts valid or not? I'm guessing they're trying to cover all their bases in the event the contracts are upheld, but publicly contradicting yourself doesn't seem like the best way to hedge your bets. Do they even realize they've taken conflicting positions on the issue?

 

[castlecake2.0]

I looked over the charter. The main section on the district's powers is section 9 on pp.26-30. The listed powers are (1) to engage in legal proceedings (2) maintain a corporate seal (3) own and dispose of property (4) lease facilities (5) exercise powers of eminent domain (6) powers relating to reclamation, drainage and irrigation (7) water and flood control (8) water and sewer systems (9) waste collection and disposal (10) mosquito and pest control (11) airport facilities (12) recreation facilities - this one allows the district to own, acquire, build, maintain and operate parks, golf courses, museums, convention halls and all other types of facilities (13) parking facilities (14) fire protection (15) advertising (16) transportation (17) public utilities (18) conservation and sanctuaries (19) issue bonds and (20) other powers and research and development - this is a catch-all that allows the district to develop and utilize new concepts, designs and ideas.

I'm not finding any basis in the powers listed above for prohibiting a business operating in the district from adopting health mitigation measures.

Section 23 "Planning; Building Codes; Safety Regulations; Platting and Subdivisions; Zoning" has subsection (9) that states : "Any regulations adopted pursuant to the provisions of this section relating to safety, health, sanitation or building safety shall prescribe standards at least equivalent to the minimum standards in applicable statewide regulations protecting the general safety and welfare of the public." So I guess if the state somehow declares flu-type disease mitigation measures detrimental to the general safety and welfare of the public, this might fit. I'd like to say that last sentence was a joke, but . . .

I think you would be well within your rights to ask what in the charter gives them authority for what they said they were going to do. If they give you one, get bold and ask for the section that lets them control Disney's content.

Thank you, this helps me a lot! I appreciate the time you took to get the details.

 

[Kamikaze]

So the government claims...

"The contracts aren't valid."

...but they are also trying to pass a (possibly unconstitutional) bill to allow them to retroactively void the contracts... which would only be necessary if the contracts are actually valid in the first place.

...and now the AG is claiming that the powers granted by the contracts (arguably) might subject Disney to public document reporting requirements which, again, could only possibly apply if the contracts are valid.

So which is it? Are the contracts valid or not? I'm guessing they're trying to cover all their bases in the event the contracts are upheld, but publicly contradicting yourself doesn't seem like the best way to hedge your bets. Do they even realize they've taken conflicting positions on the issue?

You fight both sides if you have to. Same as Disney is going to fight this with PR and eventually in the courts.

 

[Dranth]

I didn't say anything about the majority, though - I said his Republican/conservative base. That 32% isn't going to be swayed away from him now, no matter what - particularly as so many of them already have issues with Disney to begin with.

Which is why all these things he has been doing is going to hurt him in a general. I know he and his team feel like they need it to win a primary but that is already backfiring. The gap between him and the frontrunner is as big as it ever was and even if he makes it through, these stunts are incredibly unpopular on a national level.

The fight with Disney is just another example. It isn't popular outside of people who were going to support him no matter what if he ends up the party candidate.

 

[peter11435]

You fight both sides if you have to. Same as Disney is going to fight this with PR and eventually in the courts.

Probably not wise for the legislature to pass a clearly unconstitutional bill in order to void a contract they are already convinced is null and void.

 

[Kamikaze]

Probably not wise for the legislature to pass a clearly unconstitutional bill in order to void a contract they are already convinced is null and void.

The original bill was also illegal based on targeting a company based on its 1A rights, so they clearly didn't care.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

I’ll put it in terms you can understand.

Miami is the NYC (it wishes!) in this analogy, and Fort Lauderdale is the NJ.

Can I get a Taylor ham, egg & cheese in Ft. Lauderdale? I didn’t think so…it ain’t jersey…besides, I have to pump my own gas…lol