Chi84
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If you’re really interested in an in-depth explanation of how and why RCID came about this is an excellent article citing to many original and factual sources.
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flynnibus
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Yes, but that *idea* was already on the back burner by the time RCID was proposed to the state. The state was drooling at the potential for what Disneyland East was gonna do for them...
Walt's vision was very much still just an idea -- which the company parked and pivoted away from virtually immediately after Walt passed. The resort was the company's priority -- which still had the majority of the same needs. The entire property, not just EPCOT, were being designed to be forward thinking from the start... which RCID helped enable.
The notion that RCID was only to serve the purpose of building EPCOT is fiction.
flynnibus
Premium Member
They also built nearly 20 yrs later in an entirely different area in an economic base that was already riding on the back of Disney.
What Walt had visions for and what the RCID was set up to achieve were different things. They did not have the same requirements. Do any of those videos actually tie the two together? Or are they just suggestive?
flynnibus
Premium Member
We know RCID was created to be forward looking to include EPCOT concepts - it just wasn't ONLY for EPCOT. That's the falsehood... that without EPCOT there was no need for RCID or it was some sort of switcheroo.
Which is why it makes for such a plausible conspiracy plot... always have some threads of truth woven in so you can have something to make your incredible leaps from
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
This is wrong, but even if you had just skimmed through a few pages you would see that this has been asked and answered countless times
peter11435
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The RCID legislation was enacted a year after Walt’s death. When Walt died EPCOT the city died with him. The state knew what they were getting.
StaceyH_SD
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If the state of Florida did not like the arrangement they had anytime in the last 50+ years to dissolve it. They didn’t. In fact, the last time Florida reviewed doing just that - in 2004 I think? - they came to the conclusion that it was a benefit to both the state and Disney/the local area to keep the arrangement as is.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
I posted a ton of screenshots and proof from a 2004 report from the Office of Government Accountability where yes, they affirmed that RCID was serving its purpose.
Here's the link if anyone would like to give it a read.
Patcheslee
Well-Known Member
Some of the meetings touch on finances and income. Of course if they build housing in the district, it becomes more income for them. They would have income from all the utilities associated with the properties along with rent.
Stripes
Premium Member
And the reason the report was requested was because the legislative committee was concerned about the possibility that Comcast would acquire Disney and take the district in a new direction, thereby implying that they were happy with Disney’s control and concerned about the district potentially straying from its existing path.
tissandtully
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Disney board banned X-rated stores and liquor shops from property, overlooking prisons
Before allies of Gov. Ron DeSantis took over, Disney World’s governing district reached an agreement in February with the company to prohibit a long list of businesses from ever being operated on its property. At the time, the board was controlled by Disney supporters. Forbidden establishments...
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Error in article, banned businesses included bowling alleys. I recall a location ( Splitsville ) that you could go bowling, drink and eat by AMC at Disney Springs years ago.Disney board banned X-rated stores and liquor shops from property, overlooking prisons
Before allies of Gov. Ron DeSantis took over, Disney World’s governing district reached an agreement in February with the company to prohibit a long list of businesses from ever being operated on its property. At the time, the board was controlled by Disney supporters. Forbidden establishments...
Interestingly, there's the Target liquor store off of Herzog, which is still "on property"Disney board banned X-rated stores and liquor shops from property, overlooking prisons
Before allies of Gov. Ron DeSantis took over, Disney World’s governing district reached an agreement in February with the company to prohibit a long list of businesses from ever being operated on its property. At the time, the board was controlled by Disney supporters. Forbidden establishments...
MagicHappens1971
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lazyboy97o
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The prohibited uses are from the restrictive covenants that restrict what the District can build on its property. They’re not district-wide bans for all property owners, just the District.
It's interesting that you say that, because DeSantis has been on a habit of signing legislation that has overwhelming majorities of the state against it.
Or I could say "that's wishful thinking" since the US doesn't really function as advertised.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
There is a thread that already started on that specific topic.
Surferboy567
Well-Known Member
Sorry, I missed that, thanks!
How come every sentence that includes "self governing" in it uses the rest of the sentence to create context that this is a bad thing?
For instance, I've lived in towns where the town was self governing and elected its own town council.
I've lived in unincorporated land where the county was self governing and elected its own county council.
I've lived in townships where the town was self governing and elected its own mayor.
Nobody ever wrote stories implying that those being "self governing" was a bad thing. In fact, quite the opposite. It was a good thing that the people impacted by the local governing had a say in the local governing. All that stuff about pushing more things down to the local level.
What's with all the news stories creating context that this is a bad thing in the RCID case.
Much like how they always imply but don't state that "special tax district" is way of getting out of taxes. When the unsaid truth is that a "special tax district" is an area where extra special taxes are collected on top of normal taxes.
For instance, I've lived in towns where the town was self governing and elected its own town council.
I've lived in unincorporated land where the county was self governing and elected its own county council.
I've lived in townships where the town was self governing and elected its own mayor.
Nobody ever wrote stories implying that those being "self governing" was a bad thing. In fact, quite the opposite. It was a good thing that the people impacted by the local governing had a say in the local governing. All that stuff about pushing more things down to the local level.
What's with all the news stories creating context that this is a bad thing in the RCID case.
Much like how they always imply but don't state that "special tax district" is way of getting out of taxes. When the unsaid truth is that a "special tax district" is an area where extra special taxes are collected on top of normal taxes.