News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[mkt]

And let's be honest, the disney side has been silent in the public and are just letting their filing tell their story. They seem perfectly content to just let this play out in court instead of court of public opinion.

ie, Disney is being the responsible adult.

 

[Krandor]

ie, Disney is being the responsible adult.

and "when you enemy is actively trying to hurt himself... step aside and let him". Disney is going to be adding stuff to this case every few weeks at this rate.

 

[flynnibus]

And let's be honest, the disney side has been silent in the public and are just letting their filing tell their story. They seem perfectly content to just let this play out in court instead of court of public opinion.

If you go back to the very beginning of this thread... people were like zOMG why isn't Disney fighting? Why aren't they saying anything? Where is Disney?

They've been consistent throughout... they weren't looking to have a public cat-fight but instead were playing a power game of calculated moves... not noisey rethoric or feet stomping. Disney has stayed true to that path all along.. and I expect them to keep doing it as well. They have a business to run and will be very keen to avoid disruptions to that.. including disruptions of their own making through public action.

You don't counter a out of control loudmouth by trying to shout louder. You build from a rock the loudmouth can't displace you from with just noise. Disney is playing with a cool hand.. something that seems to just keep DeSantis going harder and harder.. which plays in their favor in the real court.

 

[networkpro]

Completely different objective for each side.

 

[JAB]

and "when you enemy is actively trying to hurt himself... step aside and let him". Disney is going to be adding stuff to this case every few weeks at this rate.

Exactly. Disney doesn't need need to run a PR campaign when DeSantis is doing such a good job making himself look bad.

 

[Krandor]

If you go back to the very beginning of this thread... people were like zOMG why isn't Disney fighting? Why aren't they saying anything? Where is Disney?

They've been consistent throughout... they weren't looking to have a public cat-fight but instead were playing a power game of calculated moves... not noisey rethoric or feet stomping. Disney has stayed true to that path all along.. and I expect them to keep doing it as well. They have a business to run and will be very keen to avoid disruptions to that.. including disruptions of their own making through public action.

You don't counter a out of control loudmouth by trying to shout louder. You build from a rock the loudmouth can't displace you from with just noise. Disney is playing with a cool hand.. something that seems to just keep DeSantis going harder and harder.. which plays in their favor in the real court.

Very true and they were waiting till the right time to file their lawsuit which they always were after they through DeSantis had done enough. I remember watching the hearing where the new reedy creek board (whatever they are called) voted to void out the deal between reddy creek and disney and without half an hour the news broke the lawsuit was filed.

I can almost see the lawyers in a conference room sitting around with one associate with the lawsuit in his hand and the senior guys going "wait... wait... wait... ok they voted .. go run to the courthouse with the lawsuit" (yeah I know these days it is electronic but I absolutely believe they were sitting in a room watching that meeting and waiting for that vote to pull the trigger since that is when they figured they had all the ammunition they needed). and with how quickly it got filed it was written before that vote took place.

That is professionals at work. Have lawsuit ready to go and just waiting for them to shoot themselves in the foot.. and then add stuff when they keep shooting.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Incumbents take the blame when things are bad and things are bad.

In my opinion, the Disney fight is not what’s going to kill DeSantis’ chances.

The economy is always #1, and whoever is in charge gets the credit/blame whether they had any influence on it or not.

If we are in a recession next year this Disney feud will likely mean next to nothing for most voters.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Polling bears out that many conservatives aren't on Disney's side.​

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A University of Northern Florida poll in March showed both Ron DeSantis and Disney held overall favorability at 50% and 52%, respectively, among all respondents. Among Republicans, however, DeSantis’ favorability shot up to 87% and Disney’s dropped to 27%.​

In Florida.

An Ipsos/Reuters poll in late April found that 64% of those surveyed believed DeSantis was punishing Disney for free speech. But again, the responses split along party lines, with independents and Democrats siding with Disney. Among Republicans polled, 64% said DeSantis was rightfully rolling back special treatment for the company.​

Having 64% of your target audience agree with your argument doesn't seem like a great number for an issue that is coming to define you.

 

[mkt]

I've been peeking at twitter, and I've noticed there's more pro DeSantis tweets at night on the east coast while more pro Disney tweets during daytime on the east coast.

Clearly there's bots involved on one side or the other, or both.

 

[mkt]

Some pacer uploads popped up tonight

 

[Stripes]

Source: https://floridapolitics.com/archive...ney-world-governments-district-administrator/

Sounds like the dude's close to retirement anyway and just wants to keep his health insurance.

Looks like Classe is being phased out. "Special advisor" likely means just keeping him on the payroll to ease the transition.

Some background on the new District Administrator: https://www.cful.org/glenton_gilzean_jr, https://nul.org/news/magic-diversity-game-changer-glenton-gilzean-jr

Classe is still City Manager for Lake Buena Vista. I wonder if LBV keeps him given the Disney lawsuit. Truly unfortunate that he was caught up in this mess.

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[The Mom]

Things are straying too far into general politics again.

 

[LittleBuford]

Things are straying too far into general politics again.

Reminds me of the good old times!

 

[MrPromey]

If you go back to the very beginning of this thread... people were like zOMG why isn't Disney fighting? Why aren't they saying anything? Where is Disney?

They've been consistent throughout... they weren't looking to have a public cat-fight but instead were playing a power game of calculated moves... not noisey rethoric or feet stomping. Disney has stayed true to that path all along.. and I expect them to keep doing it as well. They have a business to run and will be very keen to avoid disruptions to that.. including disruptions of their own making through public action.

You don't counter a out of control loudmouth by trying to shout louder. You build from a rock the loudmouth can't displace you from with just noise. Disney is playing with a cool hand.. something that seems to just keep DeSantis going harder and harder.. which plays in their favor in the real court.

It's like Carl Sandburg said:

"If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”

He was joking but I think DeSantis took it as sage advice.

Disney is definitely handling this the right way.

 

[DCBaker]

A few details on the new contracts for Classe and Gilzean (there are 2 Tweets in each after the first one).

 

[JKick95]

A few details on the new contracts for Classe and Gilzean (there are 2 Tweets in each after the first one).

Was Classe paid $400,000? I don’t understand all the details of what this job entails, but that seems like way too much money…

Also the the president of the United States makes about $400,000. I have a strange feeling the president has more responsibilities.

 

[StaceyH_SD]

Gilzean will fit right in with the board. DeSantis has appointed him to other positions in the past. I have no idea what Classe’s current pay rate is but my guess is Gilzean is getting a raise.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Funny how the people who claim to be all about transparency and accountability now want someone in the middle to keep quiet.

And what does it say that the District which is supposed to serve its taxpayers sees them as competition?

 

[Figgy1]

A few details on the new contracts for Classe and Gilzean (there are 2 Tweets in each after the first one).

Aren't there legality issues with government employees having nondisclosure agreements? I can understand trade secrets of companies they're regulating but isn't anything else forbidden?

 

[peter11435]

Aren't there legality issues with government employees having nondisclosure agreements? I can understand trade secrets of companies they're regulating but isn't anything else forbidden?

Yes