News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[JAB]

Funny, I guess openly held meetings are “quietly contrived”.

The repetition of false talking points by the board, etc. is getting sad at this point.

Board: "Disney had secret 11th-hour meetings the night before the bill passed!"

Person with facts: "The process was started months earlier and openly discussed in publicly noticed meetings, and all of it is a matter of public record."

Board (sticking their fingers in their ears): "ELEVENTH HOUR!!!!"

 

[RamblinWreck]

22. Then, on February 8, 2023, two days after the filing of HB 9 signaled that Disney's absolute rule over the District would soon come to an end, Disney quietly contrived with its puppet Board to extend Disney's governmental powers by contract.

They seem really committed to the hope that no judge in the process knows how a bill becomes a law. Thankfully Disney has a catchy song that can help them learn!

This is just embarrassing language to use in an official legal filing, as well.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is a classic he who smelled it dealt it defense

Does he really think people are that dumb? He said he didn’t know the district was filing the lawsuit today. Ok….yeah sure.

…did they vote for him?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They seem really committed to the hope that no judge in the process knows how a bill becomes a law. Thankfully Disney has a catchy song that can help them learn!

…like schoolhouse rock?

 

[Patcheslee]

The two that keep bugging me cause I've read it a couple times: 1663.3223 says "may" not shall. So can that be interpreted as optional vs required?

They cite 163.3220(4l) but leave out
163.3220(5) that states
"Sections 163.3220-163.3243 shall be regarded as supplemental and additional to the powers conferred upon local governments by other laws and shall not be regarded as in derogation of any powers now existing" Does that mean this doesn't take away their ability to enter into development agreements due to other existing laws?

Any input from people with better education

 

[scottieRoss]

Oh, I think this goes to the argument that RCID was created BEFORE the Florida constitution?

Not to mention that the land was owned by Compass Rose, Aye Four, RecAcres, etc.

 

[mkt]

Took a peek at the judge in the CFTOD v Disney lawsuit. Rick Scott appointee, Federalist society member, went to a fourth tier law school (the worst).

I get major Aileen Cannon vibes for her, but even less competent. It'll be interesting.

 

[scottieRoss]

other points that the Board Attornies seems to have missed:
Chapter 14 RCID Charter (Again State Law)

-The District shall have the power to exercise any of its rights, powers, privileges and authorities in any and all portions of the District lying within the boundaries of the City of Bay Lake, the City of Reedy Creek, and any other municipal corporation or other political subdivision, heretofore or hereafter created or organized, whose boundaries lie wholly or partly within the geographic limits of the District, to the same extent and in the same manner as in areas of the District not incorporated as part of a municipality or other political subdivision.
Kind of destroys that whole argument about the cities and their development plans.

And of course Chapter 21

The District shall have the power to enter into agreements with any person, firm or corporation for the furnishing by such person, firm or corporation of any facilities and services of the type provided for in this Act to the District, and for or on behalf of the District to persons, firms, corporations and other public or private bodies and agencies to whom the District is empowered under this Act to furnish facilities and services

So there goes dealings with Disney

And as for anything else we have section 2

In the event of a conflict between the provisions of this Act and the provisions of any other law, now existing or hereafter enacted, the provisions of this Act shall control to the extent of any such conflict unless such enactment shall specifically repeal or amend the provisions of this Act.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

You haven't spent much time in New England have you? There aren't many minorities in rural New Hampshire no matter how you draw the lines.

Plenty of poor people though.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Disney better hurry up and get those DeSantis popcorn buckets ready, they're going to need lightning lane for this one.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

22. Then, on February 8, 2023, two days after the filing of HB 9 signaled that Disney's absolute rule over the District would soon come to an end, Disney quietly contrived with its puppet Board to extend Disney's governmental powers by contract.

They seem really committed to the hope that no judge in the process knows how a bill becomes a law. Thankfully Disney has a catchy song that can help them learn!

And it was just on a few months ago…

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Maybe they could put that giant LED billboard on the building on I Drive to good use…lol

Run Schoolhouse Rock on an endless loop on the billboard…

 

[WDWHero]

Bob Iger at the Met Gala tonight, too bad they don't serve pudding there Ron

 

[Chi84]

This part caught my eye:

Lack of Consideration​

​

The only purported consideration that Disney provided through the Development Agreement was its agreement to demand no more than fair market value for Disney-owned lands that the District might need for any public-facilities projects that Disney may obligate the District to undertake pursuant to the Development Agreement. But the District already had the power to take private lands for public projects and to pay only fair market value for those lands.​

Without adequate consideration by both parties, the contact is unenforceable.

Any thoughts from those who have read the entire development agreement?

I haven’t read the entire agreement but lack of consideration is almost always a losing argument.

 

[JAB]

"...eleventh-hour deals with its soon-to-be-replaced puppet government."
"...quietly contrived with its puppet Board..."

The sheer hypocrisy of a group of people with absolutely no municipal administration qualifications who were hand-picked by the Governor specifically to do his bidding in his war against Disney calling RCID "puppets" is mind-boggling.

 

[Vacationeer]

Is it possible Chapek saved the US from a future with Ron? We’ll see.

This whole ordeal has an abundance of irony. That one could take the cake.

 

[WDWHero]

Is it possible Chapek saved the US from a future with Ron? We’ll see.

This whole ordeal has an abundance of irony. That one could take the cake.

He's doing a good job all by himself lol, he still would have gone after.. checks notes... drag queens?

 

[RamblinWreck]

"...eleventh-hour deals with its soon-to-be-replaced puppet government."
"...quietly contrived with its puppet Board..."

The sheer hypocrisy of a group of people with absolutely no municipal administration qualifications who were hand-picked by the Governor specifically to do his bidding in his war against Disney calling RCID "puppets" is mind-boggling.

The irony was not lost on me either

But also it’s just pointless and embarrassing language. It doesn’t help the case at all.

 

[MrPromey]

Disney better hurry up and get those DeSantis popcorn buckets ready, they're going to need lightning lane for this one.

I know he's a republican but I'm pretty sure we all know what animal they'll pick to represent him for the caricature.

 

[mikejs78]

I realize that courts don't get involved in determining relative value but in this case, CFTOD is claiming it received nothing that it didn't already have. CFTOD is claiming the district received no consideration.

For those who have read the development agreement, are there other considerations?

Couldn't Disney argue that they will provide lands at fair market value without the bar needed for eminent domain? And does a development agreement *need* consideration?