News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[JAB]

18. Florida's elected representatives decided that it was time to reform the RCID and to put Disney on the same footing as every other Florida business. On April 22, 2022, Senate Bill 4-C became effective and thereby required the dissolution of the RCID on June 1, 2023. Disney, like all of the other successful tourism venues in the area, would be subject, at least in part, to regulation by Orange and Osceola Counties.

Amazing how the counties recognized that most authority would fall to the municipalities.

22. Then, on February 8, 2023, two days after the filing of HB 9 signaled that Disney's absolute rule over the District would soon come to an end, Disney quietly contrived with its puppet Board to extend Disney's governmental powers by contract.

They seem really committed to the hope that no judge in the process knows how a bill becomes a law. Thankfully Disney has a catchy song that can help them learn!

Why would they use such blatantly, provably false statements in their legal filing? Are they so delusional they they actually believe them to be true, or are they just confident that the state courts will be blindly partisan that they don't think the truth matters?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Why would they use such blatantly, provably false statements in their legal filing? Are they so delusional they they actually believe them to be true, or are they just confident that the state courts will be blindly partisan that they don't think the truth matters?

I have no idea. The entire introduction is bupkis. Amazing how they don’t seem to reference the State Supreme Court upholding the whole arrangement.

 

[Surferboy567]

22. Then, on February 8, 2023, two days after the filing of HB 9 signaled that Disney's absolute rule over the District would soon come to an end, Disney quietly contrived with its puppet Board to extend Disney's governmental powers by contract.

They seem really committed to the hope that no judge in the process knows how a bill becomes a law. Thankfully Disney has a catchy song that can help them learn!

Funny, I guess openly held meetings are “quietly contrived”.

 

[Stripes]

I’m extremely suspicious. I think the board’s lawyers read the forums.

Here’s a piece of the text from the April 26th CFTOD agenda before it was amended.

After I read this, I posted that advertisements were published and posted links of the advertisements for the January 11th meetings. (Agenda originally said meetings took place on January 25th, but the City Councils didn‘t meet on the 25th they met on the 11th.)

Here’s the post I’m referring to.

I understand there was some discussion by the board’s lawyers that Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista did not publish notice of their intent to amend the Land Development Regulations. Their basis for this determination was that the notices were not published in the meeting minutes, which is true. However, a quick search of the Orlando Sentinel’s website would’ve proved them wrong.

There are two more for the other meetings as well.

Orlando Sentinel | Classifieds | Notices

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Orlando Sentinel | Classifieds | Notices

Free and paid Notices classified ads of the Orlando Sentinel Classifieds. Browse Notices classified ads and free ads. Post free Notices classified ads.

classifieds.orlandosentinel.com

Again I only posted the links to the January 11th meetings.

In the complaint, however, they have completely dispatched with the January meeting and instead only reference the February 8th meeting of the City Councils, claiming that they didn’t advertise said meeting.

But they did advertise the ordinances. Here are the links to the notices for the February 8 meetings of the City Councils of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista, specifically the notices advertising changes to the land development regulations.

Orlando Sentinel | Classifieds | Misc. Legal

Free and paid Misc. Legal classified ads of the Orlando Sentinel Classifieds. Browse Misc. Legal classified ads and free ads. Post free Misc. Legal classified ads.

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Orlando Sentinel | Classifieds | Misc. Legal

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Something fishy going on and I’m on to you, CFOTD!

 

[MagicHappens1971]

I’m extremely suspicious. I think the board’s lawyers read the forums.

Here’s a piece of the text from the April 26th CFTOD agenda before it was amended.
View attachment 713915

After I read this, I posted that advertisements were published and posted links of the advertisements for the January 11th meetings. (Agenda originally said meetings took place on January 25th, but the City Councils didn‘t meet on the 25th they met on the 11th.)

Here’s the post I’m referring to.

Again I only posted the links to the January 11th meetings.

In the complaint, however, they have completely dispatched with the January meeting and instead only reference the February 8th meeting of the City Councils, claiming that they didn’t advertise said meeting.
View attachment 713918
But they did advertise the ordinances. Here are the links to the notices for the February 8 meetings of the City Councils of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista, specifically the notices advertising changes to the land development regulations.

https://classifieds.orlandosentinel...ge-to-the-land-d/AC1E044D04e9b1DB80QnzyC8D918

https://classifieds.orlandosentinel...ge-to-the-land-d/AC1E044D04e9b1DB80QnzyC8D918

Something fishy going on and I’m on to you, CFOTD!

This is just plain embarrassing

 

[LittleBuford]

I was responding to a member who was seemingly implying that Universal is just in it for the money.

Let me be crystal clear: Disney was extremely shortsighted in their initial handling of the response to the parental rights legislation. Like it or not, had they not put out that statement against the legislation, we would not be in this situation, and in doing so, they alienated an entire political party. Does that make the retaliatory action that followed right? No. However, two things can be true at once; had Disney chosen not to put out that statement, Reedy Creek would still exist with the landowner-elected board, and DeSantis and Co. were wrong to retaliate.

Universal, on the other hand, has taken a much calmer approach, with this being an example of their efforts to support LGBT causes while not alienating an entire political party in the process.

I have no way of knowing, and I realise my own biases are at play in what I'm about to say, but I suspect Disney will come off looking much better in the long-run because of all this than Universal. I'm somewhat surprised that Florida's other themeparks are apparently content to watch what's happening from the sidelines, even though Disney's fight is, ultimately, their fight also.

 

[diminnie]

22. Then, on February 8, 2023, two days after the filing of HB 9 signaled that Disney's absolute rule over the District would soon come to an end, Disney quietly contrived with its puppet Board to extend Disney's governmental powers by contract.

They seem really committed to the hope that no judge in the process knows how a bill becomes a law. Thankfully Disney has a catchy song that can help them learn!

I'm just a Bill, live on Capitol Hill.

 

[JAB]

Funny, I guess openly held meetings are “quietly contrived”.

The repetition of false talking points by the board, etc. is getting sad at this point.

Board: "Disney had secret 11th-hour meetings the night before the bill passed!"

Person with facts: "The process was started months earlier and openly discussed in publicly noticed meetings, and all of it is a matter of public record."

Board (sticking their fingers in their ears): "ELEVENTH HOUR!!!!"

 

[RamblinWreck]

22. Then, on February 8, 2023, two days after the filing of HB 9 signaled that Disney's absolute rule over the District would soon come to an end, Disney quietly contrived with its puppet Board to extend Disney's governmental powers by contract.

They seem really committed to the hope that no judge in the process knows how a bill becomes a law. Thankfully Disney has a catchy song that can help them learn!

This is just embarrassing language to use in an official legal filing, as well.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is a classic he who smelled it dealt it defense

Does he really think people are that dumb? He said he didn’t know the district was filing the lawsuit today. Ok….yeah sure.

…did they vote for him?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They seem really committed to the hope that no judge in the process knows how a bill becomes a law. Thankfully Disney has a catchy song that can help them learn!

…like schoolhouse rock?

 

[Patcheslee]

The two that keep bugging me cause I've read it a couple times: 1663.3223 says "may" not shall. So can that be interpreted as optional vs required?

They cite 163.3220(4l) but leave out
163.3220(5) that states
"Sections 163.3220-163.3243 shall be regarded as supplemental and additional to the powers conferred upon local governments by other laws and shall not be regarded as in derogation of any powers now existing" Does that mean this doesn't take away their ability to enter into development agreements due to other existing laws?

Any input from people with better education

 

[scottieRoss]

Oh, I think this goes to the argument that RCID was created BEFORE the Florida constitution?

Not to mention that the land was owned by Compass Rose, Aye Four, RecAcres, etc.

 

[mkt]

Took a peek at the judge in the CFTOD v Disney lawsuit. Rick Scott appointee, Federalist society member, went to a fourth tier law school (the worst).

I get major Aileen Cannon vibes for her, but even less competent. It'll be interesting.

 

[scottieRoss]

other points that the Board Attornies seems to have missed:
Chapter 14 RCID Charter (Again State Law)

-The District shall have the power to exercise any of its rights, powers, privileges and authorities in any and all portions of the District lying within the boundaries of the City of Bay Lake, the City of Reedy Creek, and any other municipal corporation or other political subdivision, heretofore or hereafter created or organized, whose boundaries lie wholly or partly within the geographic limits of the District, to the same extent and in the same manner as in areas of the District not incorporated as part of a municipality or other political subdivision.
Kind of destroys that whole argument about the cities and their development plans.

And of course Chapter 21

The District shall have the power to enter into agreements with any person, firm or corporation for the furnishing by such person, firm or corporation of any facilities and services of the type provided for in this Act to the District, and for or on behalf of the District to persons, firms, corporations and other public or private bodies and agencies to whom the District is empowered under this Act to furnish facilities and services

So there goes dealings with Disney

And as for anything else we have section 2

In the event of a conflict between the provisions of this Act and the provisions of any other law, now existing or hereafter enacted, the provisions of this Act shall control to the extent of any such conflict unless such enactment shall specifically repeal or amend the provisions of this Act.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

You haven't spent much time in New England have you? There aren't many minorities in rural New Hampshire no matter how you draw the lines.

Plenty of poor people though.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Disney better hurry up and get those DeSantis popcorn buckets ready, they're going to need lightning lane for this one.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

22. Then, on February 8, 2023, two days after the filing of HB 9 signaled that Disney's absolute rule over the District would soon come to an end, Disney quietly contrived with its puppet Board to extend Disney's governmental powers by contract.

They seem really committed to the hope that no judge in the process knows how a bill becomes a law. Thankfully Disney has a catchy song that can help them learn!

And it was just on a few months ago…

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Maybe they could put that giant LED billboard on the building on I Drive to good use…lol

Run Schoolhouse Rock on an endless loop on the billboard…

 

[WDWHero]

Bob Iger at the Met Gala tonight, too bad they don't serve pudding there Ron