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DeSantis' Central Florida Tourism Oversight District sues Disney in Florida state court​

DeSantis' Central Florida Tourism Oversight District sues Disney in Florida state court

DeSantis' Central Florida Tourism Oversight District sues Disney in Florida state court

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[GoofGoof]

Where in the bill that “reimagined“ the district does it say the district is responsible for helping Orange and Osceola Counties fight Disney on real estate tax appraisals. That is the very stuff that will sink them. Trying to prove you are not just in it to punish Disney and then continuing to talk about ways you plan to punish Disney is a quick way to lose if Federal court

 

[TeriofTerror]

Kinda sad. If any of that was sincere he lived in a serious echo chamber. Did he really not realize what he was getting into?

The guy thinks tap water will make you gay. I'll go out on a limb and say critical thinking is not his strong suit.

 

[mkt]

And then two minor points... 1) I wasn't a lifer, but I lived in Orlando for 3 years and I've never heard of anyone driving through or across Walt Disney World surface streets unless they were doing Walt Disney World things. So the claim that the roads are for public use is dubious to me.

I’ve been here half of my life. When I lived in Windermere, the fastest toll-free option to get to my workplace in Osceola County or see family in Celebration was through Disney property.

It might not be common, but it happens.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

…oh this gets better and better

What are we suing for??

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I find it so strange to hear these justifications based on the notion a government-appointed board is examining the running of a private business to see how they can make it better serve the public good. On some level, that sounds all well and good. Overall, however, that sounds very close to a particularly state-centric form of socialism in which the state appoints officials to oversee individual businesses and guide their actions according to their assessments of the public good, including how they use their land. It's particularly strange to consider this is a board that lives off Disney's revenue but Disney has no representation on it and thus no real say in how their taxes are used.

Maybe a bit of a simplistic take, but listening to that guy rabbit on made me wonder whether there are suddenly a lot of conservatives supporting this move realising that they actually like the idea of socialising more of private enterprise to make it work for the public good.

 

[mkt]

…oh this gets better and better

What are we suing for??

 

[donaldfan]

…oh this gets better and better

What are we suing for??

They keep taking the rope to hang themselves, don’t they? Lol

 

[RamblinWreck]

There is not shot they weren’t aware of how the board came about.

Given how sloppy the process was from the beginning, I’m betting there’s going to be a lot of communications that come up in discovery which prove this, among other things.

 

[StaceyH_SD]

Well.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't think that analogy works.

Disney didn't buy the property on both sides of the street because there was no street. The street only exists in the first place because Disney wanted it there to connect their own stuff to more of their own stuff.

And then two minor points... 1) I wasn't a lifer, but I lived in Orlando for 3 years and I've never heard of anyone driving through or across Walt Disney World surface streets unless they were doing Walt Disney World things. So the claim that the roads are for public use is dubious to me. 2) None of us can know how the land would have developed absent RCID.


Right, and they realized that, and they didn't do it. That was the source of all of the doom and gloom articles about tax burdens and bond debt shifting to the counties, which they said wouldn't happen, and it hasn't.

For all the things they got wrong, at least they got that part right. If you're going to dissolve the district, you have to replace it with something different (that looks a whole lot like the exact same thing with a new name and a panel of cronies in charge).

Dude, are you just trying to play the “counter” here, or what?

If you want to get to windemere or bay lake…you go through property

If you want to get to a lot of points along 192…you go through property…

You want to go to the turnpike north from the tourist areas…you go through property.

Want me to get a google maps car out there for you?


…not your finest work on this thread, my man

 

[lazyboy97o]

The gloves are off at this point. For good measure it’s time to let the residents or cities get involved for the violations to the state constitution and law.

 

[GhostHost1000]

This has all become such a circus with lots of clowns. It’s a shame Iger couldn’t have just tried to meet with DeSantis after Chapek left and tried to patch it up and blame it all on him like he did other things.

I’m afraid this is all going to get worse before it gets better

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The gloves are off at this point. For good measure it’s time to let the residents or cities get involved for the violations to the state constitution and law.

Who has standing?

 

[Andrew C]

Good morning...I see things have escalated again. Jesus...

 

[lazyboy97o]

Who has standing?

The residents and cities which are constitutionally guaranteed things like home rule.

 

[mmascari]

They could have said that everything inside Disney's gates is private infrastructure and Disney would have been responsible for the roads, waste, etc. The same way that Disney maintains the walking paths inside the theme park gates, they would have maintained the roads inside the WDW gates as part of their operating costs.

Imagine how the bubble would have looked different if they had done this. The roads themselves and the entrances and exits to the surrounding area would likely all be different. Instead of building 4 theme parks, 2 water parks, retail, and hotels it might have been one huge complex. Put the parking ticket gates right at the edges and minimize the number of entrances. It wouldn't have to be different, but it likely would have. There's a different mindset when working within a single boundary.

They could have said that the infrastructure is public and should be funded by the counties. I think this would have been appropriate if they had implemented it from the beginning, since the pizza places, t-shirt shops, hotels, and residents of Central Florida benefit from all of the economic development that Disney brought to the region and therefore should have shared in the cost. There's no way they should have sprung this on the counties now, since that would have been deeply inequitable to current property owners. If this was going to be the structure, it would have had to be the structure since the beginning.

The counties at the time couldn't afford or support this. While a very valid logical option, it wouldn't have been possible at the time. Now that the counties might be able to support it, nobody in them would want to.

Or they could have done the special district.

Essentially a compromise. Designed to get a public infrastructure and usage like the second while funding it like the first. A win for everyone.

 

[lazyboy97o]

This has all become such a circus with lots of clowns. It’s a shame Iger couldn’t have just tried to meet with DeSantis after Chapek left and tried to patch it up and blame it all on him like he did other things.

I’m afraid this is all going to get worse before it gets better

This tied, false nonsense still? Iger groveling isn’t a solution.

 

[mkt]

…oh this gets better and better

What are we suing for??

For a board that’s partly comprised of actual licensed attorneys, I expected them to know better.

 

[WDWHero]

Dude, are you just trying to play the “counter” here, or what?

If you want to get to windemere or bay lake…you go through property

If you want to get to a lot of points along 192…you go through property…

You want to go to the turnpike north from the tourist areas…you go through property.

Want me to get a google maps car out there for you?


…not your finest work on this thread, my man

Once again see my previous post lol