News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[lazyboy97o]

And aligns perfectly with his book passage where he wrote about how it was important that nobody knew they were doing this and needed the element of surprise on their side.

Maybe that’s just how good he is at keeping secrets! The attorney general doesn’t know!

 

[Surferboy567]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that there might be issues with them trying to be defended as a group.

Conflict of interest?

 

[tissandtully]

Given that he publicly discussed his intention to retaliate against Disney, then ordered special legislative sessions with the express purpose of passing the legislation re: RCID, signed the bills when he could have vetoed them, appointed the new board, and bragged about how "he" beat Disney, it seems hard to argue that he isn't culpable.

Probably an oversimplification, but it feels like if someone were to do the following:

• Publicly state you're going to throw a pie at someone for saying something you didn't like
• Order a pie from the local bakery.
• Accept delivery of the pie (even though you could refuse if it's not what you wanted)
• Throw the pie at your target
• Brag that you hit your target with the pie
• Get sued by person hit by pie.
• Claim, "It's not my fault. The bakery made the pie."

Can we get more pie analogies?

 

[Brian]

Maybe they should lead the meeting off saying they are going to raise taxes to fight the case they will lose.

Though the Disney Springs tenants are collateral damage, higher taxes/dues are more or less a forgone conclusion of a costly legal fight for any CDD or HOA. I believe one member mentioned a few months ago that they sued their HOA and, though they won the case, ended up paying more that year in dues since the HOA had to defend against their lawsuit.

The money has to come from somewhere, and the CFTOD board can't tax only Disney, as much as I'm sure they'd like to.

 

[LAKid53]

also notable... that amended memo was signed the morning of Apr 19th... the same morning the session was to start. Seems totally slimly

The regular session in 2022 ran January to March.

This particular session dealt with social media.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Though the Disney Springs tenants are collateral damage, higher taxes/dues are more or less a forgone conclusion of a costly legal fight for any CDD or HOA. I believe one member mentioned a few months ago that they sued their HOA and, though they won the case, ended up paying more that year in dues since the HOA had to defend against their lawsuit.

The money has to come from somewhere, and the CFTOD board can't tax only Disney, as much as I'm sure they'd like to.

The problem though is that the requirement to get consent of the landowners may still apply to the District.

 

[Touchdown]

All this arguing about the 1st A issues is well and good but can we at least acknowledge that the most likely scenario is a partial win for Disney on the contact law point and them being able to keep their contact?

 

[LAKid53]

Though the Disney Springs tenants are collateral damage, higher taxes/dues are more or less a forgone conclusion of a costly legal fight for any CDD or HOA. I believe one member mentioned a few months ago that they sued their HOA and, though they won the case, ended up paying more that year in dues since the HOA had to defend against their lawsuit.

The money has to come from somewhere, and the CFTOD board can't tax only Disney, as much as I'm sure they'd like to.

Under what authority, though, could they tax tenants?

 

[flynnibus]

The regular session in 2022 ran January to March.

This particular session dealt with social media.

huh?

The special session in question and what this post was referring to was Apr 19-22

 

[tissandtully]

I'm surprised more tenants aren't showing up, like Art Smith or AMC heads, they can just point to the NBA Experience and say what DS is gonna look like if they all move to Flamingo Crossings

 

[Brian]

Under what authority, though, could they tax tenants?

I'm not certain, but the Orlando Business Journal (and WFTV, quoting them) seem to think they have the authority to do so.

DeSantis vs. Disney feud to cost Disney Springs businesses money

The Central Florida Tourism Oversight District board during its April 26 meeting said it plans to raise taxes within the district — which will affect Disney Springs tenants — to fund Gov. Ron DeSantis’ ongoing legal battle with Disney (NYSE: DIS).

www.wftv.com

 

[WDWBryan]

I'm surprised more tenants aren't showing up, like Art Smith or AMC heads, they can just point to the NBA Experience and say what DS is gonna look like if they all move to Flamingo Crossings

Flamingo Crossings is also in the district

 

[lazyboy97o]

Under what authority, though, could they tax tenants?

It’s due to lease agreements.

 

[Andrew C]

Why are we even discussing the possibility that the AGs statements are valid?

Being able to dissect what the other side is saying can help to strengthen your own arguments?

 

[tissandtully]

Flamingo Crossings is also in the district

I should've checked, I had a feeling. Well, then back to Crossroads!

 

[Brian]

It’s due to lease agreements.

Is it that Disney gets taxed for the land the tenants' businesses sit on, and passes the taxes onto them as part of their rent?

 

[Patcheslee]

also notable... that amended memo was signed the morning of Apr 19th... the same morning the session was to start. Seems totally slimly

The meeting notes say the session was called to address a few districts. Which I wouldn't be surprised to see them argue RDIC wasn't singled out. What Disney will have to argue is their Board selection was changed, while the others stayed as they were.

 

[GrumpyFan]

Maybe they should lead the meeting off saying they are going to raise taxes to fight the case they will lose.

I am sure that will go over well with those in attendance.

I think that would be met by another suit from Disney and nearly all of the vendors from Springs.

 

[Surferboy567]

I'm not certain, but the Orlando Business Journal (and WFTV, quoting them) seem to think they have the authority to do so.

DeSantis vs. Disney feud to cost Disney Springs businesses money

The Central Florida Tourism Oversight District board during its April 26 meeting said it plans to raise taxes within the district — which will affect Disney Springs tenants — to fund Gov. Ron DeSantis’ ongoing legal battle with Disney (NYSE: DIS).

www.wftv.com

Doesn’t the injuction stop them from doing this? Has that not been granted yet?

This is exactly what I was worried they could do in the short term.

 

[Brian]

Doesn’t the injuction stop them from doing this? Has that not been granted yet?

This is exactly what I was worried they could do in the short term.

There has been no injunction as of this post.