News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

Brian

Brian

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Chi84 said:
Given the timeline of events I think the facts are not there to show “we the people” had a substantial interest in interfering with Disney’s contract rights.
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Best case the state can make is that DeSantis and the Florida GOP had an extremely good showing in the Nov. 2022 election, after they did what they did with RCID earlier that year. Though, as we all know (myself included), just because one votes for a specific politician does not mean they necessarily agree with every single thing they said/did.
 
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Lilofan

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Brian said:
Best case the state can make is that DeSantis and the Florida GOP had an extremely good showing in the Nov. 2022 election, after they did what they did with RCID earlier that year. Though, as we all know (myself included), just because one votes for a specific politician does not mean they necessarily agree with every single thing they said/did.
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It is a lot different when talking to citizens of other states . When you try to make others drink the Kool Aid of Make America Florida , that's a roadblock right there.
 
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RamblinWreck

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Brian said:
Best case the state can make is that DeSantis and the Florida GOP had an extremely good showing in the Nov. 2022 election, after they did what they did with RCID earlier that year. Though, as we all know (myself included), just because one votes for a specific politician does not mean they necessarily agree with every single thing they said/did.
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They’ve made that case already and it requires someone to have paid no attention at all to find it convincing.

What they ended up doing to the district, well after the election, is not even remotely similar to the initial bill to dissolve the district. It in now way put Disney on a level playing field with anyone.
 
Chi84

Chi84

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Brian said:
Best case the state can make is that DeSantis and the Florida GOP had an extremely good showing in the Nov. 2022 election, after they did what they did with RCID earlier that year. Though, as we all know (myself included), just because one votes for a specific politician does not mean they necessarily agree with every single thing they said/did.
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Well, there's a difference between a public mandate and a legally permissible substantial public interest. In other words, it doesn't matter how many people in Florida agree with an action intended to infringe on someone's constitutional rights because that, in itself, is illegal. It would have to be a showing that there was a permissible substantial interest in what was done to RCID that would justify interfering with Disney's constitutional rights.
 
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Vacationeer

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Hopefully the board are all abiding by Florida-in-the-Sunshine laws. Has the board been sworn in yet?
 
lentesta

lentesta

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DCBaker said:
The Central Florida Tourism Oversight District Board of Supervisors have scheduled a special meeting for this Monday, May 1.

Here's the only item currently listed for new business -

4.1 Board discussion and direction to litigation counsel and authorization to defend District officials sued in official capacities.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that there might be issues with them trying to be defended as a group.
 
tissandtully

tissandtully

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JAB said:
Given that he publicly discussed his intention to retaliate against Disney, then ordered special legislative sessions with the express purpose of passing the legislation re: RCID, signed the bills when he could have vetoed them, appointed the new board, and bragged about how "he" beat Disney, it seems hard to argue that he isn't culpable.

Probably an oversimplification, but it feels like if someone were to do the following:
  • Publicly state you're going to throw a pie at someone for saying something you didn't like
  • Order a pie from the local bakery.
  • Accept delivery of the pie (even though you could refuse if it's not what you wanted)
  • Throw the pie at your target
  • Brag that you hit your target with the pie
  • Get sued by person hit by pie.
  • Claim, "It's not my fault. The bakery made the pie."
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Can we get more pie analogies?
 
Brian

Brian

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Surferboy567 said:
Maybe they should lead the meeting off saying they are going to raise taxes to fight the case they will lose.
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Though the Disney Springs tenants are collateral damage, higher taxes/dues are more or less a forgone conclusion of a costly legal fight for any CDD or HOA. I believe one member mentioned a few months ago that they sued their HOA and, though they won the case, ended up paying more that year in dues since the HOA had to defend against their lawsuit.

The money has to come from somewhere, and the CFTOD board can't tax only Disney, as much as I'm sure they'd like to.
 
LAKid53

LAKid53

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flynnibus said:
also notable... that amended memo was signed the morning of Apr 19th... the same morning the session was to start. Seems totally slimly
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The regular session in 2022 ran January to March.

This particular session dealt with social media.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Brian said:
Though the Disney Springs tenants are collateral damage, higher taxes/dues are more or less a forgone conclusion of a costly legal fight for any CDD or HOA. I believe one member mentioned a few months ago that they sued their HOA and, though they won the case, ended up paying more that year in dues since the HOA had to defend against their lawsuit.

The money has to come from somewhere, and the CFTOD board can't tax only Disney, as much as I'm sure they'd like to.
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The problem though is that the requirement to get consent of the landowners may still apply to the District.
 
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Touchdown

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All this arguing about the 1st A issues is well and good but can we at least acknowledge that the most likely scenario is a partial win for Disney on the contact law point and them being able to keep their contact?
 
LAKid53

LAKid53

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Brian said:
Though the Disney Springs tenants are collateral damage, higher taxes/dues are more or less a forgone conclusion of a costly legal fight for any CDD or HOA. I believe one member mentioned a few months ago that they sued their HOA and, though they won the case, ended up paying more that year in dues since the HOA had to defend against their lawsuit.

The money has to come from somewhere, and the CFTOD board can't tax only Disney, as much as I'm sure they'd like to.
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Under what authority, though, could they tax tenants?
 
tissandtully

tissandtully

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I'm surprised more tenants aren't showing up, like Art Smith or AMC heads, they can just point to the NBA Experience and say what DS is gonna look like if they all move to Flamingo Crossings
 
Brian

Brian

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LAKid53 said:
Under what authority, though, could they tax tenants?
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I'm not certain, but the Orlando Business Journal (and WFTV, quoting them) seem to think they have the authority to do so.

www.wftv.com

DeSantis vs. Disney feud to cost Disney Springs businesses money

The Central Florida Tourism Oversight District board during its April 26 meeting said it plans to raise taxes within the district — which will affect Disney Springs tenants — to fund Gov. Ron DeSantis’ ongoing legal battle with Disney (NYSE: DIS).
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