News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

UNCgolf

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So how long do we have to wait for discovery to start?

I can only imagine how entertaining the communications between the DeSantis Admin and the CFTOD board will be. Both before they were installed and after.

Plus the communications between the DeSantis Admin and the legislature.


Is it possible any of these could cause additional legal woes for the governor?

They have to have a 26(f) conference to discuss discovery and agree on a plan, then parties have to actually collect the requested information, review it for responsiveness and privilege, etc. so it'll likely be several months before any document productions are made.

Plus I doubt this is going to be very amicable, so there will probably be numerous motions related to discovery that need a judge's order.

EDIT: The actual collection process can be pretty laborious and time intensive. Once individuals with potentially relevant information are identified, they have to have government/business email inboxes collected, anything stored on cloud services, potentially personal email/cell phone data if it contains relevant information, any external hard drives, any hard copy paper documents they have stored somewhere, etc. -- I once spent two days at the HQ of a large corporation digging through hard copy paper documents from various C suite offices.
 
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flynnibus

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There's more to say about both of these cases, but it's probably more efficient to wait for the state's response before going into any in-depth analysis
I found it interesting because it highlights an avenue that isn’t dependent on avoiding the intent angle…. And with the bizarre behavior from the FL GOP that maybe could explain their complete lack of restraint or remorse?

If they are operating under the guidance telling them they have legislative immunity — does that make some of their behavior more understandable?

I think it also is relevant that people are aware the topic is far more nuanced than “i was targeted”…. So when we get to the actual court portion peoole aren’t so blindsided
 

Chi84

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I found it interesting because it highlights an avenue that isn’t dependent on avoiding the intent angle…. And with the bizarre behavior from the FL GOP that maybe could explain their complete lack of restraint or remorse?

If they are operating under the guidance telling them they have legislative immunity — does that make some of their behavior more understandable?

I think it also is relevant that people are aware the topic is far more nuanced than “i was targeted”…. So when we get to the actual court portion peoole aren’t so blindsided
I can say that neither Kensington nor O'Brien involved a legislative act directed so completely against an individual party. This is pretty unique in terms of legislative action - it's generally presumed that the legislature acts in the public interest and that its actions may only collaterally affect a party's constitutional rights.
 

durangojim

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I personally think the Republican party is destroying itself…And Trump and Desantis will now continue to destroy the party further If Republicans want to survive they need to separate themselves from those 2…otherwise it will be a party of ists and isms…I know it’s not all Republicans but as long as they want to continue that narrative let them burn
Thing is, who in their right mind would ever want to run for office these days? Heck, my undergrad degree is in Political Science. I once had thoughts of going into public service and then realized I’d be villified for every mistake I ever made in my life. I could do more good by becoming a physician and personal power and croneyism wasn’t that important to me.
 

flynnibus

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I can say that neither Kensington nor O'Brien involved a legislative act directed so completely against an individual party. This is pretty unique in terms of legislative action - it's generally presumed that the legislature acts in the public interest and that its actions may only collaterally affect a party's constitutional rights.
Im not saying they are right… I’m just trying to figure out what could possibly be going through their heads :)
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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I personally think the Republican party is destroying itself…And Trump and Desantis will now continue to destroy the party further If Republicans want to survive they need to separate themselves from those 2…otherwise it will be a party of ists and isms…I know it’s not all Republicans but as long as they want to continue that narrative let them burn

A bit off topic there chief.
It is off topic…and not correct grammar…cause it’s not the past tense.

It’s done. And the key is “actuarial tables”
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Not 100% sure how open Sunshine State law is about things being public. But could the quote below mean they could request all records of such discussions, because DeSantis admitted to them. Taken from the top of page 20.
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As we just found out in Delaware last week…all communications can be recovered no matter how many times you empty the trash bin…

All communications will be produced in this. Any doubts it’s 100% damning?
 

MrPromey

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I'm impressed with how Disney has handled the PR aspect of this over the past couple of weeks and how they were able to put forward what's in the suit in layman's terms
Amazing how the company can handle itself when someone with an ounce of EQ and social presence is in charge, isn't it?*

Bob C had apparently never heard that old adage about "It's not what you say but..."

*Still not an Iger fan but he at least knows how to work the crowd and understands why it's important to do so.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Amazing how the company can handle itself when someone with an ounce of EQ and social presence is in charge, isn't it?*

Bob C had apparently never heard that old adage about "It's not what you say but..."

*Still not an Iger fan but he at least knows how to work the crowd and why it's important to do so.
He’s experienced in legal proceedings from 40 years of experience in dealing with this sort of thing.

He is a fairly good delegator…as far as things of this nature. They have the right JDs on deck here…

Which means emperor Zenia is about to reveal herself

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lazyboy97o

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Could the state potentially get an injunction against Disney to prevent new development while the matter is adjudicated? Undoing development would be difficult, so from the point of view that there are problems with the comprehensive plan it would be a harm that is difficult to remedy. But the Board has not actually identified a need that conflicts with the plan or agreements, so it seems it would be hard to argue a harm because you might not be able to do some unidentifiable alternative.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Could the state potentially get an injunction against Disney to prevent new development while the matter is adjudicated? Undoing development would be difficult, so from the point of view that there are problems with the comprehensive plan it would be a harm that is difficult to remedy. But the Board has not actually identified a need that conflicts with the plan or agreements, so it seems it would be hard to argue a harm because you might not be able to do some unidentifiable alternative.
Well good news there is Disney is doing Jack NOTHING in Florida as if stands…

“Nothing to see here”


Now if this was against Comcast? Look out
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Or the state's lawyers could accidentally turn over a complete snapshot of DeSantis's entire phone like in another recent high-profile case. 😏
It’s not like it’s recently come to light that he’s reviled by his staff…to the point where formers have gone to work on the campaign of a competitor who they KNOW won’t pay them.
 

tissandtully

Well-Known Member
Today’s Board of Supervisors meeting is a pretty damning bit of evidence against public need. Constituents presented concerns with the Board’s planned actions and they were summarily ignored because the public concerns didn’t align with the board and governor’s pre-existing desires.
I can’t believe the head of these big companies showed up and they were like “nah, we’re still gonna raise your taxes”
 

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