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Sirwalterraleigh

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Sirwalterraleigh

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As someone posted earlier the Federal Judge in this case is a tough draw for DeSantis. He called FL a First Amendment upside down🙀🙀🙀

Walker said Florida had become a place where the First Amendment allowed, rather than prevented, the state to limit speech. Or as he put it, "in the popular television series Stranger Things, the 'upside down' describes a parallel dimension containing a distorted version of our world. Recently, Florida has seemed like a First Amendment upside down."

The appeals court will likely decide whether whatever he rules is going to stand, but it’s a bad first draw for the state.

I’m glad you quoted this…

Yes…this guy really gets the bigger issue…

You can’t say that “freedom” is you taking your opinion…without reasonable mandate…and use it to enact policy that tells everyone else what to do and what not to do.
And that’s what this is. It isn’t just Florida…but the frequency is rising.

That’s closer to absolutism than parliamentarianism…

Yes. By the way…he’s from winter garden originally and was born in 1967…
…so he’d have NO idea how Orlando grew around Orlando 🙄
 
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GoofGoof

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This pretty much guarantees Disney is going to win the first round!

As I've repeatedly posted on this thread, the judge you pull is everything.
The appeals court is pretty well balanced, actually may lean conservative now with some more recent Trump appointees. In this case I think it’s just this judge then the appeals court then the US Supreme Court. I think the ultimate fate could be in that appeals court as I don’t think the Supreme Court is likely to want to touch this one.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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The appeals court is pretty well balanced, actually may lean conservative now with some more recent Trump appointees. In this case I think it’s just this judge then the appeals court then the US Supreme Court. I think the ultimate fate could be in that appeals court as I don’t think the Supreme Court is likely to want to touch this one.
Well Disney will not let it die. Which means the only way it doesn’t progress is if the government flips in Tallahassee before it gets to the end of the game?
 

mikejs78

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The appeals court is pretty well balanced, actually may lean conservative now with some more recent Trump appointees. In this case I think it’s just this judge then the appeals court then the US Supreme Court. I think the ultimate fate could be in that appeals court as I don’t think the Supreme Court is likely to want to touch this one.

Could be two rounds of appeals - 3 judge panel (in which case the draw matters) and possibly en banc.
 

Schmidt

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Actually, this is the press he wants. This is what he wanted all along, which is why he kept poking the (Winnie the Pooh) bear.

DeSantis clearly intends to run right of Trump, so every time a liberal news outlet gives this oxygen, expect DeSantis to use this to campaign on, to raise funds.

Each time a Republican attacks him, DeSantis will say that Republican is beholden to big corporate donors.

Each time a judge rules against him (and it will happen a lot), he’ll claim he needs to be president so he can appoint conservative judges who “respect the Constitution”.

He needs this fight to keep his campaign alive, ‘cause otherwise the polls had him DOA.

DeSantis does not need to win this, only keep it alive until the Republican primary.

Ugh!
He may want this, but does he need this. Not if it doesn't go his way. This is already costing him corporate support, and $$$.

I'm not convinced that this type of news will be reflected positively in his polls. It has only hurt so far.
DeSantis's poll #'s have been taking a big hit lately as you mention. DeSantis doesn't have the popularity or charisma of Trump. Trump can take a big negative hit over, and over, over again and bounce back. Not many politicians can do that.
 

GoofGoof

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He may want this, but does he need this. Not if it doesn't go his way. This is already costing him corporate support, and $$$.

I'm not convinced that this type of news will be reflected positively in his polls. It has only hurt so far.
DeSantis's poll #'s have been taking a big hit lately as you mention. DeSantis doesn't have the popularity or charisma of Trump. Trump can take a big negative hit over, and over, over again and bounce back. Not many politicians can do that.
Yeah I agree with @ParentsOf4 that he definitely wanted this, but I also agree with you that it may not actually be very good for him at all. If he wins in court I guess he can campaign on it, but if he loses or the most likely scenario that the case is still pending come primary time then it won’t be a positive for him.
 

GoofGoof

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Could be two rounds of appeals - 3 judge panel (in which case the draw matters) and possibly en banc.
On appeal they would have to rule the original judge‘s decision was flawed. Not saying that is difficult but it’s a higher bar than arguing the original case. It will be interesting to see play out. It’s also possible….maybe sorta kinda possible….that if Disney wins the initial trial and if the Governor is a failed lame duck at that point that the legislature will come to the table and look to settle the dispute for good outside of court.
 

jpeden

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In the Parks
No
Could be two rounds of appeals - 3 judge panel (in which case the draw matters) and possibly en banc.

Except en banc reviews are very rarely granted. The three judge panel is what will matter.

I’ve said this many times and people scoffed at me for it, but I expected them to use the invalidation of the DA as the key to go after it all, including the changing of RCID - and that’s exactly what they did.

Wouldn’t be surprised if a summary judgement was issued based on the filing. It won’t happen, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
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Surprised this GIF hasn't been used yet

south park x GIF
 

fgmnt

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Amazing how the company can handle itself when someone with an ounce of EQ and social presence is in charge, isn't it?*

Bob C had apparently never heard that old adage about "It's not what you say but..."

*Still not an Iger fan but he at least knows how to work the crowd and understands why it's important to do so.

If Slappy was still at the helm he probably would have sold the property to DeSantis by now.
 

sedati

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I'm still hung up on the idea that if this gets to damages, the judge should take in to account not just what Disney may ask for, but the claims made by the other side who boasted about the 1/2 drop in market value (go woke, go broke).
I have no idea if there's precedent for "boastful damages" but I'd like to imagine there's some way to stretch a "Declaration Against Interest" where this could be factored in.
 

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