Gringrinngghost
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If anything, there can be a preliminary injunction at anytime, and then from there it could take years for this to all be settled.
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MrPromey
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And what are the best possible outcomes at this point?
If Disney comes out ahead, they get to keep doing business without facing undue scrutiny and hassle from our state government.
If DeSantis wins he... gets to say he powned the mouse while potentially damaging a tax source?
A whole lot of taxpayer money is being spent and government work is being done to make sure a chapter in this guys self-aggrandizing book holds up.
How this feels worth it, even to people who support him, is beyond me.
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After thinking about it for another minute, I think it's totally worth it. It's helping the nation see who this potential presidential candidate really is. As a Florida tax payer, that warning to the rest of the country may be worth it to me.
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flynnibus
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yes - was just posting to say so. they are calling out both state laws as violations of the 1A and relief includes invalidating those (F)
Fido Chuckwagon
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Yeah, it really is. I just spent way too much time reading all 77 pages.
And what are the best possible outcomes at this point?
If Disney comes out ahead, they get to keep doing business without facing undue scrutiny and hassle from our state goverment.
If DeSantis wins he... gets to say he powned the mouse?
A whole lot of taxpayer money and government work is being done to make sure a chapter in this guys self-aggrandizing book holds up.
I don't disagree at all. And that's going to be a whopper of a legal bill we Floridians get stuck with.
Dranth
Well-Known Member
This. Just finished reading the lawsuit and the number of times they pull quotes directly from his book is pretty astounding.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Makes me wonder if the district was tipped on how Disney would attack.
The vast majority of Disney's complaint hinges on defending "the contracts" and relies on defining the comp 2032 plan as valid and confirmed by the state.
But a substantial amount of time today was spent by the lawyer trying to undermine the same comp 2032 plan as invalid before having the board vote to void the contracts. A topic they didn't touch on at all last time.
The district lawyer outlined numerous vectors they could attack the Comp Plan 2032 on... believe them or not... that is turf that will be fought over in court. Disney's fight to keep the contracts and comp plan could be wound up into those procedural and records topics.
At least they do explictly call out the state's prior acts (dissolution and the new reformation) as 1A violations so at least that fight will continue even if Disney were to lose on the contracts points.
The vast majority of Disney's complaint hinges on defending "the contracts" and relies on defining the comp 2032 plan as valid and confirmed by the state.
But a substantial amount of time today was spent by the lawyer trying to undermine the same comp 2032 plan as invalid before having the board vote to void the contracts. A topic they didn't touch on at all last time.
The district lawyer outlined numerous vectors they could attack the Comp Plan 2032 on... believe them or not... that is turf that will be fought over in court. Disney's fight to keep the contracts and comp plan could be wound up into those procedural and records topics.
At least they do explictly call out the state's prior acts (dissolution and the new reformation) as 1A violations so at least that fight will continue even if Disney were to lose on the contracts points.
Drdcm
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So this is a weird question that I’ve been mulling over. Let’s say the dissolution is found to be federally unconstitutional and the laws get repealed. What happens to RCID moving forward? Is it permanent or can the state just dissolve it again in the future and make sure not to say it’s in retaliation to something Disney says?
Kamikaze
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Question - why do you use that acronym?
Kamikaze
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No, they'd have little to no legal standing to just go down the same route again.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Yes, they could go back at it. But the barriers would be much higher
The rational point though is hopefully the GOP camp will be tired of it by then and have moved onto something else.
This doesn’t answer the whole part of the question, but part of the issue is if you dissolve the district you still have to take care of outstanding debt owed by the district to bond holders. The debt then falls to Orange and Osceola County, who probably don’t want to take on additional debt
Brian
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I would assume that the judge would word any injunctive relief to allow the option for the state to dissolve the WDW special district (whether that be RCID, CFTOD, or something else) at some point in the future, so long as it is not in retaliation for Disney's speech. It would be wholly unreasonable to order the state to maintain a special district for any entity in perpetuity.
esskay
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Yeah I imagine if they lost at that point the aim would be to distance themselves from it as much as possible, and avoid any kind of mention of it out of fear of being owned again.
flynnibus
Premium Member
They'd have the same exact standing they had previously - the problem is making it objective instead of the retaliation. They could go like they did the first time... wider nets... but actually do their homework and stop mouthing off about it.
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
Correct, they'd have to make the new laws apply to a much larger group than just Disney. They wouldn't have the legal ability to just try to do the same exact thing over again.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
You wouldn't sue for X and then go back and sue for Y, but you can use discretion and understand that if you're unlikely to prevail on Y, you might leave it out in the first place.
Batman'sParents
Active Member
What about an out of court settlement? Parties settle all the time out of court after filing lawsuits.