News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

sblank

Member
Problem is that the district's money has to come from somewhere, so they can't afford Cooper & Kirk to do all of this work. They know they're not going to get approval to raise taxes. The firefighters will be pretty upset when they don't get a pay raise because CFTOD has to pay all these lawyers.
The state is in the process of sending an additional $15M+ to New College to make up for lost donations when Desantis pulled essentially the same stunt to their governing board. Never doubt the FL state government's ability to funnel tax dollars to their buddies.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
so who has got the resume on the district admin?

I'm not hearing actual leading government experience in these comments?

Like.. did he even manage his local residential community before moving right to a Manhattan sized property? :)
 

TheMaxRebo

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"we didn't pick the fight, Disney picked the fight"

Funny... he's omitting all the statements made BEFORE they met with the Disney people after being appointed.

Didn't this all escalate when Chapek (eventually) spoke out against the bill? There was no intention to go after Reedy Creek before that, right?

So then isn't this the issue that they view voicing a differing opinion as "picking a fight"?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Didn't this all escalate when Chapek (eventually) spoke out against the bill? There was no intention to go after Reedy Creek before that, right?

So then isn't this the issue that they view voicing a differing opinion as "picking a fight"?
…they would have found another reason to pick a fight with Disney in short order.

These are inexperienced hacks looking for a lifetimes supply of dark money. Disney is a big and obvious target to whip up attention.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Didn't this all escalate when Chapek (eventually) spoke out against the bill? There was no intention to go after Reedy Creek before that, right?

So then isn't this the issue that they view voicing a differing opinion as "picking a fight"?
No, I'm talking about what the gov and board said they would do when the board members were picked and spoke at a press conference.

Because the chairman was talking about their individual experiences and intents.
 
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UNCgolf

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I love the Skyliner, what don't you like about it?

I just don't like it in general; can't really put a finger on why. Rode it a couple of times and have no interest in riding again -- I would not stay at a Skyliner resort since I'd rather just use buses (luckily I didn't want to stay at any of the Skyliner resorts regardless).

From an operational standpoint, though, it's too slow (i.e. it really wouldn't work over longer distances, like trying to get someone from DAK to MK) and prone to downtime. Not solely for storms/wind (which isn't a great feature when you're in Florida), but if there's an issue anywhere along the line the whole system has to shut down (which is also true for the monorail unfortunately).

I'm not saying they should tear it down or anything -- I know some people like and it's fine as a transportation option for a few resorts. Just that in addition to me personally disliking it, it doesn't really make sense to expand. I think Martin indicated that Disney had come to the same conclusion, other than maybe a small expansion solely around the DHS/EPCOT area.
 
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GBAB1973

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…they would have found another reason to pick a fight with Disney in short order.

These are inexperienced hacks looking for a lifetimes supply of dark money. Disney is a big and obvious target to whip up attention.

Exactly.

What people are missing here is that DeSantis has been itching for fights in this culture war that he thinks will elevate his status amongst GOP voters and maybe the electorate in general if he wants to run for President. He threatened to levy significant fines against the Special Olympics over their vaccine mandate. He's big on this anti-ESG movement.

He's looking for targets to advance these fights, so if not Disney, he would have found someone else. Or lit Disney up over something else.

Further, I think what Flynn is referencing is the fact that after DeSantis made his plans known to create this board, the board started talking about all the things they hoped they could do to Disney now in terms of content, etc. now that they had control over them. If the board had planned on operating in good faith, I suspect Disney would be less trigger happy at this point.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
More about his background.

So yup... an executive with no actual community planning or admin experience.

The role isn't an executive people leader role.. the role is that of an actual hands on administrator... normally someone with certifications in the field, or at least a background in property management and development.

Contrast with the current outgoing admin... https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-classe-7683b711/ who has decades of developer and planning background/experience.
 

lewisc

Well-Known Member
I just don't like it in general; can't really put a finger on why. Rode it a couple of times and have no interest in riding again -- I would not stay at a Skyliner resort since I'd rather just use buses (luckily I didn't want to stay at any of the Skyliner resorts regardless).

From an operational standpoint, though, it's too slow (i.e. it really wouldn't work over longer distances, like trying to get someone from DAK to MK) and prone to downtime. Not just for storms/wind (which isn't a great feature when you're in Florida), but if there's an issue anywhere along the line the whole system has to shut down (which is also true for the monorail unfortunately). I think Martin indicated that at one point they had plans to expand it significantly, but then decided it's not a good operational investment -- although I think he also said there were potential plans for a small expansion.

I'm not saying they should tear it down or anything. Just that in addition to me personally disliking it, it doesn't really make sense to expand.
The Skyliner has to SLOW DOWN or stop when ECVs load or unload at Riviera. The skyliner can't just stop and load 6 scooters at once.

it's a shame they can't encourage ECV guests to use the CBR station instead of Riviera.
 

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