News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

Smiley/OCD

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I don't know of many examples of heavy machinery that can be safely inspected without shutting them down first. If an inspector is acting in good faith, they will keep the system down only as long as it takes to conduct the inspection.

Orders to conduct an inspection for any specific and minimum period of time would come from a partisan, and would almost certainly be widely reported by the media, thus presenting Disney with yet another opportunity to seek redress in court.
BUT, I can imagine and assume scenarios where Disney does the necessary inspections overnight when the parks are closed…beams are not being used the monorail cars are all in their service bays and storage areas. I can’t imagine ANY scenarios where state inspectors would be on property before 9 am or after 5 pm to conduct their inspections.
We all know this will be done during park operating hours.
 

LAKid53

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They’re the findings of the Board of Supervisors, a legislative body.

The board of supervisors isn't a legislative body. It's a local government.

And that "legislative findings" is nothing more than an analysis of existing statute and the timeline of events, presented as though it's a legal brief. For a case that doesn't exist.
 

LAKid53

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BUT, I can imagine and assume scenarios where Disney does the necessary inspections overnight when the parks are closed…beams are not being used the monorail cars are all in their service bays and storage areas. I can’t imagine ANY scenarios where state inspectors would be on property before 9 am or after 5 pm to conduct their inspections.
We all know this will be done during park operating hours.

Disney does a lot of maintenance overnight.
 

Lilofan

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You think the State of Florida shuts down from 5 PM to 8AM? It doesn't.
DeSantis doesn't read the law when a company that employs more than 1K staff and has their own safety ride inspectors are exempt from state inspections ( ie WDW, Uni, SW ). State inspectors generally work business hours unless need to do their roles at night.
 

LAKid53

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DeSantis doesn't read the law when a company that employs more than 1K staff and has their own safety ride inspectors are exempt from state inspections ( ie WDW, Uni, SW ). State inspectors generally work business hours unless need to do their roles at night.

Again, the state doesn't shut down overnight. There are positions that work overnight shifts. And others that are on call.
 

GoofGoof

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This assumes the front line state workers would be acting in bad faith, which I think is a bit unfair. Most state workers, especially the front liners, are not partisans and just want to make an honest living like those in the private sector.

Sure, they take orders from partisans higher up in the org chart, but to assume that they will all just acquiesce and not blow the whistle, and inspectors will descend on WDW and just randomly shutdown the monorails just to own the libs is a bit much.

Assuming the inspectors act in good faith, I'd say it's a good thing if there are shutdowns of the monorail system. It means there are safety concerns being identified which would (presumably) otherwise go unaddressed.
Seriously? If the intent was to do inspections in good faith then why not just pass a law that covers all fixed rail transit systems in the state? Why carve out special districts that cover more than one county? I think the answer is obvious. There’s no reason to even consider for a second that these inspections would be done in good faith.
 

lazyboy97o

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You can't have findings without evidence. What you're reading are allegations of the Board, which taken as true, support the action they are asking counsel to take.
Right, I just don’t think the title has any particular added significance. I don’t doubt there is evidence either. I have not gone back to do a more thorough read, but as I said previously, I didn’t notice much in the way of referencing the original District charter which was state law at the time. I find that peculiar and it makes me doubt the conclusions because we know the charter had a clause regarding subsequent state laws.

I‘m also not sure how prior actions might hurt the old district’s case. My understanding is that the District did do some things (I don’t know specifics) to align with subsequent state law but held the position that they were not required to comply. I don’t know if doing some requirements but not others might create room for the argument that the District have done all or nothing, and that doing some is evidence that they should have been required to comply.
 

LAKid53

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Seriously? If the intent was to do inspections in good faith then why not just pass a law that covers all fixed rail transit systems in the state? Why carve out special districts that cover more than one county? I think the answer is obvious. There’s no reason to even consider for a second that these inspections would be done in good faith.

And if anyone doesn't think the state isn't capable of using its bureaucratic power to impede the operations of a private company, think again.

Been there, done that.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I agree, the board cannot simply declare a contract void. But they are effectively taking a stance that they do not intend to honor it.

As I understand, the purpose of the newly proposed legislation is to void the contract. I’m not sure the board has to act since, by law, the contract will be void.

Since there will be a state law voiding the contract, I think this means Disney will have to initiate the lawsuit.

As you point out, Disney probably will challenge the law as unconstitutional.

Frankly, I’m just not sure since I’ve never seen anything like this before.

But at least Disney has turned this into a contract dispute, which I suspect was their strategy all along.
I agree. Right now if the district declares the existing contract void in a public meeting that’s meaningless. If the legislature passes the bill allowing districts to void existing contracts then the district will have the legal authority to void the contract. At that point Disney would need to challenge the bill itself or the voiding of their specific contract or both. I agree that as a contract dispute this is a much better position for Disney.
 

LAKid53

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Of course, but his ultimate goal is to make corporate life as difficult as possible for the mouse…

True. But the officers really have more important roles. Like making sure people aren't catching red fish that are undersized or in quantities not allowed by law.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
You think the State of Florida shuts down from 5 PM to 8AM? It doesn't.
Disney already employs qualified inspectors.

These inspections already happen during overnight hours.

If the state was genuinely interested in improving safety and oversight they would apply these inspections to everyone.

The fact that they have singled out Disney is proof (as if we didn’t already know) that this is more attempts to punish and challenge Disney.

If the goal is to make things harder for WDW then why would they bend over backwards to perform these inspections at convenient times for Disney.
 

durangojim

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Disney already employs qualified inspectors.

These inspections already happen during overnight hours.

If the state was genuinely interested in improving safety and oversight they would apply these inspections to everyone.

The fact that they have singled out Disney is proof (as if we didn’t already know) that this is more attempts to punish and challenge Disney.

If the goal is to make things harder for WDW then why would they bend over backwards to perform these inspections at convenient times for Disney.
I think this whole thing is stupid but I do have to wonder how so many problems over the past few years (doors opening, frequent breakdowns, etc) got past the “qualified inspectors”. Maybe this is the one silver lining which will come out of this whole inane thing. Also wouldn’t everyone just prefer them to replace the monorails with the sky liner at this point?
 

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