-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
- Thread starter castlecake2.0
- Start date
JAB
Well-Known Member
Bay Lake is the DVC wing of the Contemporary, not a separate resort.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
But it’s also sort of like other recent legislation in Florida and elsewhere because of the way it shifts the actions of enforcement away from the state itself. The harm isn’t caused by the law itself, it’s caused by the actions of the board.
JAB
Well-Known Member
The full name is "Bay Lake Tower at Disney's Contemporary Resort"
Regardless... you're focusing on the semantics of what is or isn't a resort and completely ignoring the point I made that, for most guests of the Contemporary (including those at BLT), the 10-minute walk to MK would be a perfectly viable option. If given the choice between a short walk, or standing around waiting for a bus, which do think most guests would choose? I really don't see how loss of the monorail would be as disruptive as you seem to think it would be. There has been monorail downtime before, and they've managed.
It's not just distressing, it's potentially a violation of Florida's Sunshine law.
The full name is "Bay Lake Tower at Disney's Contemporary Resort"
Regardless... you're focusing on the semantics of what is or isn't a resort and completely ignoring the point I made that, for most guests of the Contemporary (including those at BLT), the 10-minute walk to MK would be a perfectly viable option. If given the choice between a short walk, or standing around waiting for a bus, which do think most guests would choose? I really don't see how loss of the monorail would be as disruptive as you seem to think it would be. There has been monorail downtime before, and they've managed.
You're forgetting that guests at Bay Lake and the Contemporary take a monorail to Epcot.
And you're forgetting that Bay Lake is a separate resort. It is deeded as such, in spite of what you insist based on the name.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
It literally isn't.
"Resort" refers to the way the property is presented to the public, it has nothing to do with what's deeded to whom with the freaking Orange County comptroller or whoever.
drnilescrane
Well-Known Member
Whomever decided on that name back in 2009 has caused untold misery for everybody over the last 15 years.
I did my CP at the front desk just after it opened and the amount of upset and anger because people thought it was a separate resort with separate amenities was astounding.
They did eventually capitulate and give them a satellite front desk/bell services/allow DME to drop off over there as well. But it was one organization under one GM. Saying it isn't is like saying Boulder Creek and Copper Creek aren't part of Wilderness Lodge - true in the most technical sense, but doesn't reflect reality.
WDPR Inc employees work there, not DVC Management LLC like Riviera/Saratoga/Old Key West (it's a totally separate company, check your credit card statements next time you buy something at one of those properties).
Last edited:
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Bay lake is the “fourth resort”?
How you figure? The lack of food or the lack of housekeeping?
Did they disconnect the bridge?
Chip Chipperson
Well-Known Member
I think the semantics of 3 resorts or 4 resorts is ultimately inconsequential. It's a lot of people inconvenienced either way. If the State decides to have frequent inspections during operating hours, it would likely deter some people from paying the premium "Monorail resort" prices - and if they're inclined to book higher quality rooms they may decide that staying at a non-Disney resort is preferable to booking a moderate or deluxe resort further away from MK. How many empty rooms would actually result from all of that is debatable since there are often more people trying to book those 3 resorts than there are available rooms anyway, but it would be a bad look and incredibly stupid decision for the State to mess with tourists in that way as some sort of punishment for Disney.
JAB
Well-Known Member
You edited your post to add this text after I responded to it.
To address your additional points...
Your original assertion is that losing the monorail would be a "cluster." Would transportation to/from MK be slower and/or less convenient for some resort guests? Probably. But there's enough alternative options that I still don't see how it's enough of a logistical nightmare to warrant being called a "cluster."
As for Epcot; there's already park bus infrastructure from the monorail resorts with routes to AK and HS, and Disney manages to add bus service to both Epcot and HS for the Skyliner resorts (which have significantly more guests than the monorail resorts) when that goes down, so I think they would manage just fine having to add a bus route to Epcot if the monorail went out of service.
So do I think there's zero impact if the monorails shut down? Of course not. I just don't think it becomes a "cluster" for Disney if the state decides to push things that far.
drnilescrane
Well-Known Member
Ok, so I take that one back. He's going to be around until 2024.
You edited your post to add this text after I responded to it.
To address your additional points...
Your original assertion is that losing the monorail would be a "cluster." Would transportation to/from MK be slower and/or less convenient for some resort guests? Probably. But there's enough alternative options that I still don't see how it's enough of a logistical nightmare to warrant being called a "cluster."
As for Epcot; there's already park bus infrastructure from the monorail resorts with routes to AK and HS, and Disney manages to add bus service to both Epcot and HS for the Skyliner resorts (which have significantly more guests than the monorail resorts) when that goes down, so I think they would manage just fine having to add a bus route to Epcot if the monorail went out of service.
So do I think there's zero impact if the monorails shut down? Of course not. I just don't think it becomes a "cluster" for Disney if the state decides to push things that far.
Well, the betting odds for a special session appear to be getting better.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
What happens if they don’t get the budget done?
They adjourn when the regular session ends and come back for a special session (been done before) or extend the current session (also happened before). As long as there's an approved budget by 6/30/2023.
