News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[GoofGoof]

CFTOD Meeting Agenda is out

8.3 Remove from office and terminate all Planning and Zoning Board members and
appoint the Board of Supervisors to serve as the local planning agency of the Central
Florida Tourism Oversight District.

They don’t beat around the bush do they

 

[peter11435]

All I've got to say is: Disney better learn how to play nice [edit: again] with the GOP in Florida.



And yes, the Florida GOP needs to learn how to play nice with Disney, too.

This doesn’t tell the whole story.

 

[Stripes]

8.3 Remove from office and terminate all Planning and Zoning Board members and
appoint the Board of Supervisors to serve as the local planning agency of the Central
Florida Tourism Oversight District.

They don’t beat around the bush do they

Can they do that before the mandatory second public hearing on resolution 639 on April 29th?

That resolution is the one that strips control of the planning board and the requirement to have at least one person on the planning board that knows what they’re doing.

 

[maxairmike]

For a group that was so dismayed and angry that their power was limited to such boring things as road and sewer maintenance, they seem to be in awfully big hurry to get rid of those who understand and currently manage such things to do it themselves.

 

[lazyboy97o]

For a group that was so dismayed and angry that their power was limited to such boring things as road and sewer maintenance, they seem to be in awfully big hurry to get rid of those who understand and currently manage such things to do it themselves.

And then turn around and hire someone else to help them figure it out.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

How does gerrymandering affect the statewide voter registration numbers by party?

Not everyone votes. Voter registration isn’t really super relevant. Even if it was, the numbers aren’t so far apart.
DeSantis also got re-elected and may have swung some people towards the Republicans because of his covid respond. He has gone off the walls since then.

 

[mikejs78]

. Can they do that before the mandatory second public hearing on resolution 639 on April 29th?

That resolution is the one that strips control of the planning board and the requirement to have at least one person on the planning board that knows what they’re doing.

The current amendment procedures require hearings and discussion by the planning board. How does the new board justify circumventing them?

 

[GoofGoof]

Can they do that before the mandatory second public hearing on resolution 639 on April 29th?

That resolution is the one that strips control of the planning board and the requirement to have at least one person on the planning board that knows what they’re doing.

Not sure. Maybe that item is just “for discussion” and won’t be voted on this meeting.

 

[castlecake2.0]

So they’re firing the planning board but then hiring an urban planning company?

I hate all of this

 

[GoofGoof]

So they’re firing the planning board but then hiring an urban planning company?

I hate all of this

Maybe this sounds cynical, but anything the board pays money for is ultimately paid for by Disney so if they want to hurt the company why not hire a bunch of useless consultants who I’m sure will be “friends of the program“. No clue why you would need an urban planning company for a district with less than 100 residents. Nothing urban about it and no need for much planning

 

[lazyboy97o]

Maybe this sounds cynical, but anything the board pays money for is ultimately paid for by Disney so if they want to hurt the company why not hire a bunch of useless consultants who I’m sure will be “friends of the program“. No clue why you would need an urban planning company for a district with less than 100 residents. Nothing urban about it and no need for much planning

One of the things the reconstitution law required was for the board to review if the District was following state law. It was a minor inclusion that wastes resources but reinforces one of DeSantis’ lies. They are now going through the process of checking that something DeSantis’ own government already determined to be in compliance with state law is in compliance with state law, likely by hiring more donors. They’re even specifically required to review whether the Florida Fire Prevention Code complies with the Florida Fire Prevention Code. This is the sort of corrupt nonsense that isn’t getting reported in even the best reporting on the issue.

There’s really nothing called suburban planning or rural planning. Urban planners are who you are going to hire to work on land use analysis and regulations.

 

[maxairmike]

And then turn around and hire someone else to help them figure it out.

So they’re firing the planning board but then hiring an urban planning company?

I hate all of this

Unless I missed something in my skim of the material (very likely), they’re not contracting out that job, just vesting all the authority of that board in themselves. I don’t believe the amendment to these sections allows them to contract that board’s function out, at least yet. If they retain the services of a planning consulting firm it would likely be for review of the existing documents and situations (stupidly) as required by the legislation, not for actually engaging on actual future development.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Unless I missed something in my skim of the material (very likely), they’re not contracting out that job, just vesting all the authority of that board in themselves. I don’t believe the amendment to these sections allows them to contract that board’s function out, at least yet. If they retain the services of a planning consulting firm it would likely be for review of the existing documents and situations (stupidly) as required by the legislation, not for actually engaging on actual future development.

The people involved in developing the comprehensive plan would be able to explain how it complied with state law. The Department of Economic Opportunity would also be able to answer this question. They only thing they’ve done is started to hire a bunch of donors. It’s a grift.

 

[Kamikaze]

Florida has made exemptions multiple times for politicians to run for higher office while still serving. It’s nothing new.

I can't find a single case of this happening in the past.

There is an exception for those running for US Congress (not the Senate), but as far as I can find, what you posted is untrue.

 

[tissandtully]

It’s a grift.

You can’t spell grift without R

 

[mikejs78]

I can't find a single case of this happening in the past.

There is an exception for those running for US Congress (not the Senate), but as far as I can find, what you posted is untrue.

Happened in 2008 with Charlie Crist...

 

[mkt]

Happened in 2008 with Charlie Crist...

Yes, because he announced that he wouldn't run for re-election, and as such would be completing his term.

That's similar to the reason that Rick Scott was able to run for Senate in 2018.

 

[mkt]

Maybe this sounds cynical, but anything the board pays money for is ultimately paid for by Disney so if they want to hurt the company why not hire a bunch of useless consultants who I’m sure will be “friends of the program“. No clue why you would need an urban planning company for a district with less than 100 residents. Nothing urban about it and no need for much planning

It just feels like they're waiting for the damages to happen, so they have an even better case to have the entire law struck down.

This is Florida. Disney will win.

Disney was a part of Florida long before DeSantis's parents set foot in the sunshine state, and they'll be here long after he's moved on to his next grift.

 

[mkt]

Not sure. Maybe that item is just “for discussion” and won’t be voted on this meeting.

That would assume that they're acting on good faith.

I wouldn't assume that.

 

[mkt]

It could be that the edible I took a short while ago is finally kicking in, but here's my though on how this whole thing plays out:

Disney is biding their time, waiting to let actual damages accumulate, then methodically sues Ron DeSantis, The State of Florida, CFTOD (the entity), and the CFTOD board members individually for the damages caused by their violation of the company's first, fourth, and fourteenth amendment rights.

At the same time, Disney will begin to donate insane amounts of money via dark-money groups to friendly politicians, and whoever is challenging those that made this law happen. They might even fund one of the movements to split the state into two, pushing Disney into the far more liberal southern half of the state.

And though enough Disney funded candidates will win to eliminate the state's republican supermajority, not enough will win to shift control or split the state.

The case eventually ends up in SCOTUS, where Disney will likely win. But it will have been a pyrrhic victory, because in doing so, they will have successfully alienated half of the country and trashed their liquidity.

Now in a financially precarious situation, Disney gets split up, and we end up with a Disney now strictly as a movie studio, theme park/cruise operator, and licensing company; while other Disney brands and products are divested or sold to competitors/new entrants, who pay Disney fees for usage of their IP.

Meanwhile DeSantis, now term limited, never makes it to POTUS since no liberal or centrist would vote for him, and possibly settles for a return to congress from one of the districts he gerrymandered into existence.

Oh, and if Disney were to lose the case, that means the first, fourth, and fourteenth amendments are bunk, and you should leave the country immediately carrying only what you need.