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[DisneyJayBama]

Happy Easter to you too, sweetums

Yawn

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I'm not completely sure that the decrease in ratings can be attributed to "picking a side." I watched SNL in the early days, and it has always been rather left-leaning. I think the changes you see in ratings can be more attributed to the other factors (how good the cast is and the increase in late late-night options that you mentioned).

Now, I do think that there is evidence that SNL has "picked a side" in recent years, but that really started in 2016, which your chart doesn't cover.

The bigger issue IMHO is that divisions are much more rigid these days. Almost any comment is quickly analyzed for whether or not the individual is conservative or liberal. It is much harder to be middle-of-the-road.

Thank you for your well reasoned and well stated rebuttal.

 

[Figgy1]

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[MagicHappens1971]

It would be petty and my examples were taking it it the most extreme, but I believe Disney”s affiliated media are the only ones keeping mum on the issue which in an odd way is just as manipulated. Wouldn’t they normally cover such a thing at least on the ABC side of things?

DeSantis' board says Disney stripped them of power

Board members picked by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to oversee the governance of Walt Disney World say their Disney-controlled predecessors pulled a fast one on them by passing restrictive covenants that strip the new board of many of its powers

abcnews.go.com

 

[sedati]

DeSantis' board says Disney stripped them of power

Board members picked by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to oversee the governance of Walt Disney World say their Disney-controlled predecessors pulled a fast one on them by passing restrictive covenants that strip the new board of many of its powers

abcnews.go.com

Not sure this goes against my point. Comcast has done Disney far more favors in its coverage and comedy, and that may be just the way Disney wants it.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Not sure this goes against my point. Comcast has done Disney far more favors in its coverage and comedy, and that may be just the way Disney wants it.

I don’t think Disney wants to further advertise the issue, on top of the fact that the article would’ve ended with “The Walt Disney Company is the parent company of ABC News” as most Disney related ABC articles do.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/08/politics/ron-desantis-disney-florida-district-retaliation/index.html

 

[GrumpyFan]

Not sure this goes against my point. Comcast has done Disney far more favors in its coverage and comedy, and that may be just the way Disney wants it.

It’s as much for them as Disney. If Desantis or anyone else can attack Disney and strip their powers over voicing their opposition to policy it can happen to them too. I didn’t think the skit was very funny but it did send a message to both Disney and Desantis and I applaud them for it.

 

[lewisc]

Anyone who links the declining ratings of SNL to political content, without adjusting for the overall decline.of TV viewership, is being dishonest or ignorant. 60 minutes viewers dropped by 10 million.

SNL first season featured Chevy Chase making fun of President Ford.

People say SNL used to be funny. Generally people think the best of SNL is.whatver cast, and.shows, aired when they were 20ish

Edited to add American Idol originally had around 38 million viewers, currently 5 million.

 

[GoofGoof]

So. Over 4.6 million fascists live in Florida?

I don’t think so at all. I personally know a number of people in FL who voted for DeSantis but also strongly oppose this political stunt with Disney. It’s possible to vote for someone and also not support all of their actions (especially in a 2 party system). That’s why it’s complete nonsense when people say DeSantis won re-election easily so therefore the “people” support his actions here.

 

[Hakunamatata]

I don’t think so at all. I personally know a number of people in FL who voted for DeSantis but also strongly oppose this political stunt with Disney. It’s possible to vote for someone and also not support all of their actions (especially in a 2 party system). That’s why it’s complete nonsense when people say DeSantis won re-election easily so therefore the “people” support his actions here.

Agree

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don’t think so at all. I personally know a number of people in FL who voted for DeSantis but also strongly oppose this political stunt with Disney. It’s possible to vote for someone and also not support all of their actions (especially in a 2 party system). That’s why it’s complete nonsense when people say DeSantis won re-election easily so therefore the “people” support his actions here.

Very true.
People vote against their own self interests all the time. I could prove it on a map…but I’d need a laser pointer and an easel.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I don’t think so at all. I personally know a number of people in FL who voted for DeSantis but also strongly oppose this political stunt with Disney. It’s possible to vote for someone and also not support all of their actions (especially in a 2 party system). That’s why it’s complete nonsense when people say DeSantis won re-election easily so therefore the “people” support his actions here.

These boards are not a place for clear, precise and truthful posts like this.

 

[mikejs78]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/08/politics/ron-desantis-disney-florida-district-retaliation/index.html

Since the March 29 meeting, DeSantis’ administration has also stripped Reedy Creek – now called the Orange County Tourism Oversight District – of its authority to inspect Disney’s 600 pools, a source told CNN. A spokeswoman for DeSantis didn’t respond to a CNN inquiry about pool oversight, but DeSantis said Friday that state agencies would conduct inspections on Disney’s properties.

Yikes.

 

[Figgy1]

Yikes.

Does the state have the resources to do the inspections? How are such inspections usually carried out? @LAKid53 do you know

 

[GoofGoof]

Yikes.

Does the state have the resources to do the inspections? How are such inspections usually carried out?

I would suspect Disney continues to do their own internal inspections which will likely be more thorough than a state inspection anyway and the state inspections are just added bureaucracy and a waste of time and money.…..which I guess is the point.

Edit: from a quick web search it appears pool inspections fall under the Florida Department of Health in each County so I suppose that means mostly Orange and a little Osceola counties.

 

[flynnibus]

Does the state have the resources to do the inspections? How are such inspections usually carried out?

it's kinda weird sounding to me... but we lack the full context.

But in most places pools have state level regulations and county level. With inspections/etc executed by the county dept of health.

In Florida it appears to be the same... Regulations at the state level, inspections executed by the county health dept

Public Swimming Pools | Florida Department of Health

Public Swimming Pools

www.floridahealth.gov

Note - they are already doing this for all the other pools - adding Disney's pools would just be incremental. But I think this change would be more about the building code/requirement side.. and less about the health inspections.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Yikes.

Does Florida have a bunch of pool inspectors on the payroll sitting around with nothing to do?

This would seem on the surface a bit of an own goal as it removes the responsibility from the district to which Disney is paying taxes to do this kind of thing and passing the cost on to all Florida taxpayers.

 

[mmascari]

I would suspect Disney continues to do their own internal inspections

I would assume this was always true. Even if RCID was doing inspections, nobody involved would want an issue to show up first as part of that inspection no matter the relationship.

which will likely be more thorough than a state inspection anyway and the state inspections are just added bureaucracy and a waste of time and money.…..which I guess is the point.

Edit: from a quick web search it appears pool inspections fall under the Florida Department of Health in each County so I suppose that means mostly Orange and a little Osceola counties.

Is there any source beyond this one side blurb in the CNN article? It's attributed to "a source" and "DeSantis said" and without any references or direct quotes. Things that lose a lot of nuance and details.

Do we even know if RCID was doing pool inspections instead of some other entity and what the change might include? Unless the change is to an entity willing to push boundaries for alternative reasons, it's not likely they're going to start shutting down pools "just because". I would be surprised if Disney internal controls were not already stronger than any state level criteria.

On the flip side, if it reduces RCID expenses that will free up some cash for new lawyers without impacting other services.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

On the flip side, if it reduces RCID expenses that will free up some cash for new lawyers without impacting other services.

I guess DeSantis may be placating the donors and assorted crazies he appointed to the new board who were shocked to find the job involved overseeing mundane tasks like this rather than being invited to preview screenings to review and approve new Disney movies and television shows!