News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

ElvisMickey

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You haven’t pushed back against anything, just hurled insults. Do please provide evidence that is contrary to the primary sources that have been cited.
Did you even see this?
 

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Tha Realest

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The whole "we want fewer people spending more money" thing made sense during COVID when space was limited and facilities were understaffed. We do not see that anymore. As long as there is room, Disney is packing 'em in.

For regular tickets, Park Reservations are now available at all theme park tickets for the foreseeable future. Instead, Park Reservations have become a way to limit annual pass access and to force regular ticket holders into the larger theme parks (Epcot & DAK) on busier days, a way to more evenly distribute crowds.

We don’t have to guess how crowded Disney wants the theme parks or hotels to be. With Park Reservations and hotel rooms both available for the foreseeable future, then Disney wants it more crowded.

This means they are not reaching their targets. The question is, why?

Earlier it was suggested that this is because of the Disney/DeSantis spat. I seriously doubt the overwhelming majority care. Instead, it's mostly about the cost of a WDW or Universal visit.
Oh I have no doubt demand softened. I don’t think it’s the Disney/Desantis thing per se, but rather the - how to be delicate here- perceived shift in the way Disney has entered the culture wars. Disney’s become a punching bag on a certain news network, and I do think that has affected a desire of a certain cohort to visit. That cohort isn’t listening to the FL Gov, but rather Tucker Carlson. The FL Gov wants to score points with the sorts of people who listen to Tucker Carlson, and that’s what I think drives *some* of this.

My personal view is that the ending of Covid/stimulus payments, inflation, and increased economic uncertainty have forced many to cut back on travel. Seeing tons of deals on airfare and hotels that is pretty remarkable. Disney has to be affected by that.

I do think during Covid they used the levers and restrictions in place to squeeze more money out of the fewer guests that came. I think it reached a saturation points at year, but this year demand has softened and even the games they play with staffing and variable pricing aren’t as effective anymore.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Frankly I’m surprised this has escalated so far. Neither of them should want this to escalate further. I thought for sure there was some back door dealing that would allow Disney to keep doing what they’re doing.

The way this has played out is mind boggling, when they first announced the dissolution of RCiD I commented it was a publicity stunt and they’d quietly undo it behind closed doors, but they didn’t. When the legislature suggested undoing the bill over the bond payments I thought they’d finally shown their hand and that would be the end of this, but he didn’t allow it.

I mistakenly assumed this was all campaign fodder, something to get his name in the papers but not something he’d ever actually go through with because the RCiD benefited everyone.

Now that they’ve actually done it, and continue to escalate the situation, I can’t give him the benefit of the doubt anymore, assuming this is just headline grabbing, he’s gone from questionable campaigning to actually hurting his state for personal gain.
 

Disney Glimpses

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Oh my goodness, the guy who doesn't even understand what the word "pertinent" means and perplexingly thinks that just because the board changes for a government it somehow gives them the right to nullify any contract it wants.

Thank you for posting this video, at least it explains why you are so misinformed. This is a group of jokers on YouTube that somehow thinks Disney's army of lawyers doesn't understand basic contract or developer agreement law in the State of Florida.
 

ElvisMickey

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Oh my goodness, the guy who doesn't even understand what the word "pertinent" means and perplexingly thinks that just because the board changes for a government it somehow gives them the right to nullify any contract it wants.

Thank you for posting this video, at least it explains why you are so misinformed.
And what makes you so informed? Please, share…
 

Disney Glimpses

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And what makes you so informed? Please, share…
Common sense. Nothing they have said has any substance or truth to it and they've provided no examples in case law to support their arguments. None. Turns out, every actual lawyer who doesn't have a vendetta against Disney like this guy does, believes the DA to be iron clad.

But I'm glad you shared that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and that you're just regurgitating stuff you found from one dude who hates Disney on YouTube.
 

ElvisMickey

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Common sense. Nothing they have said has any substance or truth to it and they've provided no examples in case law to support their arguments. None. Turns out, every actual lawyer who doesn't have a vendetta against Disney like this guy does, believes the DA to be iron clad.

But I'm glad you shared that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and that you're just regurgitating stuff you found from one dude who hates Disney on YouTube.
Some of us actually live IN Lake Buena Vista and care about this company. You can’t argue with the bottom line…
 

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