News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

LAKid53

LAKid53

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tissandtully said:
They were too focused on this "woke" hysteria stuff last year that they had to hold special sessions for actually important things like insurance. They just don't really care about governing for actually useful things.
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Special sessions historically have focused on important statewide issues that couldn't be resolved during regular session, such as the aforementioned property insurance, redistricting, rebudgeting, etc.

I cannot, in my nearly 40 years in state government, remember a special session that focused solely on amending a section of the Florida Statutes to benefit a single office holder.
 
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Cliff

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It seems to me that the state of Florida will curse the day they ever challanged the Walt Disney Corporation. This is a "David vs Golliath" match here and the state of Florida has no rocks that it can throw at Disney. (It wouldnt work even if they did)

Disney WILL win this fight. They WILL control their own government and that's it. The faster the voters of Florida accept this, the easier it will be for everybody. (This includes Disney's Orlando competition too)

Disney DESERVES to control it's local government. It is their RIGHT and they are perfectly intitled to do so! Florida...stop trying to get in this company's way! Florida should be THANKING Disney instead of questioning them!

We all know that this is the "Walt Disney Corporation" and that resistance is futile.
 
Riviera Rita

Riviera Rita

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el_super said:
So agan why did they have to setup the quasi-government in the first place? Why have a democratically elected board? Why setup the complicated land ownership and houses with Disney employees in it? Why not just sign the whole thing over to Disney at the get-go?




Yeah again, I think I'm going to take the word of actual authors on this subject that have done actual research, instead of the anonymous voices on the internet.
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Why don't you Google the answer to your question?

Schitts Creek Comedy GIF by CBC
 
csmat99

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Brian said:
Picture this if you will: The year is 2025. The date: January 20th. President DeSantis has just wrapped up his first inaugural address, and steps inside a room off the capitol rotunda to sign his first executive orders as POTUS, first among them banning the sale of Walt Disney World tickets on U.S. military bases.

But seriously though, will he ever drop it and shift his focus to the more pressing issues?
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He will never become president. He isn't that smart, horrible in debates and people in this country don't like politicians from Florida.
 
csmat99

csmat99

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monothingie said:
So many legal experts here. I got confused and thought I was in a message board for experts on legislation and law.

Perhaps it could be made easy for the moderator. Create two threads were all the people who are on the State of Florida's side go and have their little group think thread and those who don't like it go and have their little feel good thread. Since it's just the same boring argument over and over and over again.

Yes you don't like DeSantis, Yes you don't like Disney. It gets repetitive and dull.
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Who does like DeSantis? Unless you into that fascist type of thing.
 
lentesta

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sullyinMT said:
I also wonder if he's shocked that Disney, or the former RCID board, hasn't taken direct legal action against the state. He continues to throw chum in the water hoping for a bite, and they (TWDC) isn't taking the bait.
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My guess is that it's Disney's strategy to get the state to sue.

If I understand correctly, the federal courts can't get involved when a citizen sues a state, under the 11th Amendment (cite)

Buf if the state sues, it's the plantiff and the state waives its right to immunity under the 11th Amendment.

So if the state sues, Disney can move the suits to the federal level. The federal courts would likely look at all of this much, much differently.
 
Brian

Brian

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Cliff said:
It seems to me that the state of Florida will curse the day they ever challanged the Walt Disney Corporation. This is a "David vs Golliath" match here and the state of Florida has no rocks that it can throw at Disney. (It wouldnt work even if they did)

Disney WILL win this fight. They WILL control their own government and that's it. The faster the voters of Florida accept this, the easier it will be for everybody. (This includes Disney's Orlando competition too)

Disney DESERVES to control it's local government. It is their RIGHT and they are perfectly intitled to do so! Florida...stop trying to get in this company's way! Florida should be THANKING Disney instead of questioning them!

We all know that this is the "Walt Disney Corporation" and that resistance is futile.
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A couple things here:
  • No, Disney does not have the "right" to control its own local government. The privilege of doing so was conferred back in the 60s by the legislature. I don't have a "right" to start my own special district without the approval of the legislature and sign-off by the governor.
  • Disney will indeed likely win this fight in the end, as there were multiple legal and even constitutional lines crossed by the state by messing with RCID when they did. The case is further strengthened by the statements they made at the time, and even continue to make to this day.
  • The voters have absolutely no obligation to "accept" Disney controlling their own government. The government serves at the pleasure of the constituency. Suggesting that the voters must accept the will of a private corporation simply by virtue of their size and economic influence flies in the face of American principles.

    Voters had an opportunity to make their voices heard mere months after the RCID dissolution legislation passed, and if they found the actions of DeSantis and the legislature distasteful, they could have elected new leadership. Instead, they reelected DeSantis by a nearly 20% margin, and elected even more Republicans to the legislature.

    Now, this is certainly not to say that each and every person who went out to vote for DeSantis or a Republican for their state representative or senator agreed with the RCID dissolution (take me for example), but if they found it as abhorrent as most people on this site, there certainly would have been a different outcome in that election.
...and to preempt those who like to take my words out of context: yes, retaliating against Disney for speaking out against the education legislation also flew in the face of American principles.
 
csmat99

csmat99

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tissandtully said:
I agree with all that, but none of it matters to become president unfortunately. Dude couldn't even win a debate with Charlie Crist and he still won. So, actual skill and knowledge of the job doesn't matter.
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In florida yes I agree but not nationally. Plus Crist was bad candidate to go against him. the democratic party in Fla has screwed up for so long esp down in Dade county. If they ever got their together there would never be a Desantis anymore or very least wouldn't have super majority to do what he wants.
 
Brian

Brian

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ElvisMickey said:
Oh boy. Some of us appreciate that he didn’t shut our state down during COVID. Which Disney should appreciate as well since they were only making bank out of Florida, as opposed to California…
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The best fascists are the ones who allow businesses to open up. ;)
 
csmat99

csmat99

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Riviera Rita said:
Remember 2016?
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I do. Trump actually is good debating because he just ignores the question and/or just says it's a lie again and again. The problem with 2016 which Hillary admitted was she was playing by the old rules and played nice and didn't go after Trump. She also thought like most people did that there is no way a normal person would vote for him. she was right in a way she won the popular vote but missed out on the states she didn't spend enough effort like PA.
 

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