News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[mightynine]

Whole lotta lookin’ by DeSantis, doesn’t seem like a whole lot of doin’.

 

[LAKid53]

The thing is, DeSantis and the new board really did plan to control Disney by using the district as an extortion racket tool to extract concessions from Disney. They wanted to use the threat of disrupting functionality of the district and the theme parks, to force Disney as a company into subjugation under their will.

People misunderstand how far DeSantis is willing to go with this and how he could force change to a company like Disney whose main operations are in California. By having the power to disrupt operations in the district, they planned to take the district hostage by forcing Disney to cooperate with their demands. Which could be anything from pushing Disney to remove any and all presence of LGBTQ support in the parks and in its content, to allowing guests to bring guns on property. The plan was to use the theme parks as leverage to force change upon Disney as a company to comform with conservative views about how they believe things should be, from what Disney produces with its content (including owning ABC as a network and news outlet), to what Disney can produce in its theme parks.

Most people I've talked to about this say "Disney is private property, the state can't do x or y." Completely negating the fact that DeSantis, the FL Legislature, and his appointed cronies regularly operate outside of what's legal in our states laws and constitution, and he has the legislature and the courts to make what was once illegal and unthinkable, to become legal and our new reality.

Except neither he nor state courts control the US Constitution.

 

[Mr. Stay Puft]

Except neither he nor state courts control the US Constitution.

DeSantis has connections on the Supreme Court, he and Clarence Thomas regularly discuss issues and DeSantis I'm sure gets feedback about how he can best use his executive power and how to get the legislature and courts to pass and uphold laws. So far some of his laws have been struck down or put in hold, but we haven't yet seen any of his laws put to test at the SCOTUS. We'll see how far DeSantis can try to get away with as far federal courts are concerned. He has pretty much captured the state courts here, as evidenced by the FL Supreme Court allowing his blatantly illegal Congressional redistracting map to pass despite it violating both state and federal law.

 

[LAKid53]

Disney’s legal and PR teams are formidable, no doubt. The “opposition party” that went all in with Rebekah Jones and Charlie Crist is unserious.

They'll still make hay about it. And if it effects enough people, they may listen.

The last time the Legislature even broached creating new toll roads was met with public outcry.

 

[Tha Realest]

They'll still make hay about it. And if it effects enough people, they may listen.

The last time the Legislature even broached creating new toll roads was met with public outcry.

Maybe. The thing about hotel or tourism taxes is that they’re paid by a lot of non-Floridians, and there are deep red parts of the state that aren’t affected day to day by a toll road or two in Orlando.

 

[Alanzo]

Maybe. The thing about hotel or tourism taxes is that they’re paid by a lot of non-Floridians, and there are deep red parts of the state that aren’t affected day to day by a toll road or two in Orlando.

Deep red parts of anywhere aren't going to care about how insane their governor's actions might be as long as he is also deep red.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Maybe. The thing about hotel or tourism taxes is that they’re paid by a lot of non-Floridians, and there are deep red parts of the state that aren’t affected day to day by a toll road or two in Orlando.

The changes required to make it legal would impact more than just the immediate area.

 

[LAKid53]

DeSantis has connections on the Supreme Court, he and Clarence Thomas regularly discuss issues and DeSantis I'm sure gets feedback about how he can best use his executive power and how to get the legislature and courts to pass and uphold laws. So far some of his laws have been struck down or put in hold, but we haven't yet seen any of his laws put to test at the SCOTUS. We'll see how far DeSantis can try to get away with as far federal courts are concerned. He has pretty much captured the state courts here, as evidenced by the FL Supreme Court allowing his blatantly illegal Congressional redistracting map to pass despite it violating both state and federal law.

Justice Thomas has a few things on his plate right now....

But yes, he solidly controls the FL Supreme Court. And the recent announcement of Justice Polston's resignation gives him another seat to fill. BUT, unlike SCOTUS, Florida judges are up for reconfirmation every 6 years. Newly appointed justices are reconfirmed in a yes-no election after 1 year on the bench.

 

[monothingie]

This thread is hilariously sad. An entire thread of "expert" know it alls who all know nothing. All only motivated by your own political position.

 

[LAKid53]

The changes required to make it legal would impact more than just the immediate area.

Bingo. Again, if you're going to impose a tax on Disney hotels, you have to impose a tax on all hotels in the jurisdiction.

 

[fgmnt]

This thread is hilariously sad. An entire thread of "expert" know it alls who all know nothing. All only motivated by your own political position.

Really brave post. Thanks for making it.

 

[lazyboy97o]

This thread is hilariously sad. An entire thread of "expert" know it alls who all know nothing. All only motivated by your own political position.

Do enlighten us.

 

[monothingie]

Really brave post. Thanks for making it.

You're welcome!

 

[lazyboy97o]

Bingo. Again, if you're going to impose a tax on Disney hotels, you have to impose a tax on all hotels in the jurisdiction.

I guess they could try to give new taxing powers to the District.

 

[monothingie]

Do enlighten us.

So many legal experts here. I got confused and thought I was in a message board for experts on legislation and law.

Perhaps it could be made easy for the moderator. Create two threads were all the people who are on the State of Florida's side go and have their little group think thread and those who don't like it go and have their little feel good thread. Since it's just the same boring argument over and over and over again.

Yes you don't like DeSantis, Yes you don't like Disney. It gets repetitive and dull.

 

[lazyboy97o]

So many legal experts here. I got confused and thought I was in a message board for experts on legislation and law.

Why don’t you actually address the substance of the posts?

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Legal or not, it's a brain dead move to think that you're going to punish Disney by taxing everyone except actually Disney lol

 

[LAKid53]

I guess they could try to give new taxing powers to the District.

That would be the only legal way to do so. However, that hotel tax is collected by the hotelier from the guest and passed on to the government.

Oh, and as a quasi-govt entity, OCTOD must hold public meetings, by law, when considering amending or implementing new regulations.

 

[monothingie]

Why don’t you actually address the substance of the posts?

Are you a lawyer, or a member of the State Attorney General's Office, or a representative of the legislature or executive office of the State of Florida?

 

[fgmnt]

Do enlighten us.

They're clearly more enlightened than mere mortals could ever be.