Ya know, if the new board hadn’t of thrown a temper tantrum and just quietly went about their business they could have made it look like they “won” and saved the governors face and lots of money, no one would have known better.
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peter11435
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Yep. But sadly this entire thing has just been one giant adult temper tantrum.
Zummi Gummi
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What a sad, petty, man. Someone needs to tell him to just let this go already. Our state’s insurance system, by his own admission, is “no longer solvent”, (seriously…the next major hurricane will cause the whole thing to collapse) but instead of tackling that problem he’s continuing to drag this manufactured issue on.
Does he really think slapping a toll on World Drive is going to get him a “win”?
Does he really think slapping a toll on World Drive is going to get him a “win”?
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alphac2005
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As a political strategist, it's amusing to see Ronnie in action. His shtick is wearing thin, he's causing angst amongst big time Republican donors that he's not (nor will be) ready for prime time, but any of us residents of Florida, we all better buckle up for more ridiculousness right now as he's just going to continue this type of behavior to try to capture voters in the former president's bloc.
You're spot on about a win. They simply don't know when to stop and it's typical when what was a fringe takes charge, they simply have no limits.
These are the policies his base of vindictive, myopic, self-victimizing, voters crave.
LSLS
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Which is why I don't think this was all about just political points, which makes it even scarier.
lazyboy97o
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We have another response:
Edit: tagging in @lazyboy97o to get their take on it.
'Buckle up': DeSantis escalates Disney dispute, eyes hotel taxes and road tolls
The DeSantis administration is also examining if a recent agreement approved between a Central Florida board that had been controlled by Disney and the company runs afoul of the state’s growth laws, according to senior administration officials.www.politico.com
More lies and promises to engage in blatantly illegal activity.
The simple fact is that is about consolidating power. That’s it. There is no way to cool things down or “compromise”. It’s about subjugating.
saxamoophone
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He’s such a Bully. I really have no idea how anyone could vote for that guy.
The comments were filmed.
He starts by saying ”Disney is a joke.” I presume he hasn’t met their lawyers yet.
DeSantis says legislature will repeal agreements (Hello Article 1, Clause 10, Section 1) and go further including looking at taxes on the hotels, tolls on the roads, and developing property that the district owns.
He also mentions being reelected after this issue began and therefore the voters approved of this action. However, the RCID change in governance bill was not being discussed at that time only the dissolution bill which are fundamentally different not that it matters whatsoever. This is a republic, Ronald. The majority doesn’t get to do whatever it wants, although it can certainly try.
He is giving Disney so much ammo for a First Amendment lawsuit as well!
Disney comments at 1:16:30.
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Not just the US Constitution in Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1. But the Florida Constitution in Article I, Section 10 also prohibits ex post facto law:
"SECTION 10. Prohibited laws.—No bill of attainder, ex post facto law or law impairing the obligation of contracts shall be passed."
One would think a Harvard law graduate would remember some of the pertinent lessons from his constitutional law course.
Ant attempts by the Florida Legislature, under the direction of the governor, to set aside the development agreement will be met by litigation. Iger isn't Chapek. He's already hinted in the shareholder meeting that Disney won't back down.
And the threat to tax the hotels, on TOP of the 6% bed tax the county charges will be met with stuff opposition...by all hoteliers. You CANNOT impose such a tax on one company and ignore the remaining companies in the county. That's in violation of the Florida Constitution.
Toll roads aren't popular in the state. And adding new ones, especially ones that affect local residents commuting to their homes or jobs, will be highly unpopular.
Imagine how Disney PR will play this.
Especially after he very publicly stated "Disney will pay". And Disney's PR machine will remind Floridians and tourists of this. Frankly, the opposition party will also.
If a certain board member hadn't run his mouth about the Board telling Disney what content it can produce (NOT within the Board's purview), things could have happened differently.
GimpYancIent
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Universal, Sea World, LEGO are staying back, progressing, entertaining, growing while watching the drama.
Tha Realest
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Disney’s legal and PR teams are formidable, no doubt. The “opposition party” that went all in with Rebekah Jones and Charlie Crist is unserious.
ewensell3
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I suspect the only thing that will take his attention off Disney is his presidental run and the changes to Florida law which are needed to let him do so. If he wants to remain governor while running and continue being governor in the event he loses, then they need to change Florida statute 99.012 4(a). Supposedly this has been quietly happening since his reelection and we are reaching a point where if he is serious about running, then some very official voting sessions and signatures will have to take place very soon.
Thinking out loud, how much of this Disney spectacle is a distraction from what is really happening in the background?
GimpYancIent
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Disney's legal department IS formidable, but the PR team will shoot in the foot anything the Legal folks accomplish.
THEMEPARKPIONEER
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I agree with Desantis on quite a few things but this toll thing has put Desantis down to the same level now, there both at a low and this now needs to stop
Good point about property insurance. If that market collapses, it will have a rippling effect on the housing market. Then banks. Banks won't write a mortgage if you can't get homeowner's insurance. Lending grinds to a halt, so eventually will new home construction. Property values begin to decline. Don't think I need to remind my fellow Floridians what happened the last time the state had something like this occur.
Mr. Stay Puft
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The thing is, DeSantis and the new board really did plan to control Disney by using the district as an extortion racket tool to extract concessions from Disney. They wanted to use the threat of disrupting functionality of the district and the theme parks, to force Disney as a company into subjugation under their will.
People misunderstand how far DeSantis is willing to go with this and how he could force change to a company like Disney whose main operations are in California. By having the power to disrupt operations in the district, they planned to take the district hostage by forcing Disney to cooperate with their demands. Which could be anything from pushing Disney to remove any and all presence of LGBTQ support in the parks and in its content, to allowing guests to bring guns on property. The plan was to use the theme parks as leverage to force change upon Disney as a company to conform with conservative views about how they believe things should be, from what Disney produces with its content (including owning ABC as a network and news outlet), to what Disney can produce in its theme parks.
Most people I've talked to about this say "Disney is private property, the state can't do x or y." Completely negating the fact that DeSantis, the FL Legislature, and his appointed cronies regularly operate outside of what's legal in our states laws and constitution, and he has the legislature and the courts to make what was once illegal and unthinkable, to become legal and our new reality.
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If the Florida Legislature is going to either modify or repeal Section 99.012, 4(a), F.S., then it needs to get cracking. Session ends May 5th. And it still has its ONLY constitutional function to complete...the FY 2023-24 budget.
This proposed legislation won't pass in the dark, like some others. Too much attention is on this particular section of the Florida Statutes by state media.
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