News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

mkt

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I’m thinking the exact opposite is happening. Disney/RCID is cooperating. They aren’t looking to fight this. They are attempting to take the high road and facilitate a smooth transition of power to the new board. The board isn’t technically approved yet but that’s just a rubber stamp so RCID could legally hold out until formal approval but that would just make things more chaotic at transition and would delay the inevitable.
Or they're waiting to see what the actual damage is and drop a nice fat lawsuit right before the statute of limitations runs out.
 

mkt

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This isn’t a criminal matter so there isn’t a set statute of limitations. Delaying action makes the claim less timely. Waiting undermines any case, not strengthens it.
There is a statute of limitations for this type of civil suit. I believe it's 4 years in Florida courts, 6 or 7 in Federal. Waiting does undermine, but since they're waiting for actual damages to appear rather than potential damages, I wouldn't think it's a big issue.
 

GoofGoof

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Or they're waiting to see what the actual damage is and drop a nice fat lawsuit right before the statute of limitations runs out.
Seems like they plan to play nice and hope for the best. The lawsuit only happens if there are actual damages done. If there are no damages then they save some legal fees and bad PR. The only losers then are the lawyers.
 

mkt

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Seems like they plan to play nice and hope for the best. The lawsuit only happens if there are actual damages done. If there are no damages then they save some legal fees and bad PR. The only losers then are the lawyers.
Solid strategy.

Play nice and pay attention. File suit in 3 or so years if there are damages, or carry on as is if there are none.
 
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The Mom

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My post wasn’t bickering and was very much about RCID. Is calling out the state for impropriety prohibited now?

I’m not trying to be argumentative. This
is obviously a topic that is hugely important to Disney and WDW so it needs to be discussed here but it’s also impossible to seperate this discussion from politics because the entire situation from beginning to end is political. So I understand the difficult position the moderators are faced with.
Posts that reply to a post which is later deleted are often deleted.
 

lazyboy97o

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Solid strategy.

Play nice and pay attention. File suit in 3 or so years if there are damages, or carry on as is if there are none.

And silently donate to the PACs of every political opponent of the current governor .
It’s not solid because the damage then isn’t the system and structure of the board. The damage is that one isolated action.

There is no set statute of limitations and challenging the validity of a law is not a typical civil suit. Laws do get overturned years and even decades after their passage because the idea that a long standing violation of rights is suddenly not a violation makes no sense.

Waiting for a retaliatory decision to made isn’t waiting for actual damages because the two issues are not intrinsically linked together. You waiting months or years to say this whole situation is a problem because you now contest this one decision. That’s not a good argument. It means you accepted the situation as valid until you didn’t like what it was doing to you. You have to explain why you accepted that situation and why now it is really an issue. Decisions the board is allowed to make are not a reason to undo the previously accepted system.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
Comments from Josh D'Amaro in a new article at the Orlando Business Journal.

"D'Amaro was careful to not discuss politics too much, choosing instead to speak on the theme park segment he oversees. He said he can't control how state leaders feel about the company, so he will stick to the things he can control — Walt Disney World and its sister parks.

"We will stay focused on what we have always done," he said. "Look at how we run our business. Look at the investments we are making in our business. As long as I can keep providing that, take care of our cast members, the Central Florida community [and] take care of these guests ... I'm in good shape. I can only control what I can control.""

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"D'Amaro declined to get into the politics of the Reedy Creek district dispute, possible future political contributions or if there would be any legal challenge to the law. He said he is just making sure the parks and the cast members who keep it operating are in good hands — including the new district board's hands.

"The reality is we work with different people around the world at our different theme parks. So we know how to work with different people. For all those reasons, I have to look at the situation of where we are going — I believe in where we are going — and I hope the board sees the same." It's why he said he's optimistic about the park's future, and his message to the new board is that he hopes they understand the value the district and Disney create for the region and what's needed to keep that going.

"If that new board understands the value that gets created here and how it positively impacts the Central Florida community, I think they will be aligned with our vision and will carry on the Reedy Creek soul that's been in place," he said.

As for the guests visiting the local theme parks daily, D'Amaro said Walt Disney World still embraces the differences in the world and welcomes all kinds of visitors, regardless of their political backgrounds or other beliefs. That flag is something he is holding onto tightly as Disney embarks with the new district board and that board's reported closely tied political viewpoints.

"Will there be noise on the outside? Will there be different points of view that we may not like? Sure," he said, noting the company still will find success continuing to serve all types of people even if their beliefs may be different. "I really believe that, so we are not going to get distracted."

The new board for the Reedy Creek district will meet for the first time on March 8. The new board likely will address compensation of the district's first responders, DeSantis previously said.

Officials with DeSantis' office and Reedy Creek district were not available for comment."

The full article can be found at the link below.

 

Tha Realest

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Comments from Josh D'Amaro in a new article at the Orlando Business Journal.

"D'Amaro was careful to not discuss politics too much, choosing instead to speak on the theme park segment he oversees. He said he can't control how state leaders feel about the company, so he will stick to the things he can control — Walt Disney World and its sister parks.

"We will stay focused on what we have always done," he said. "Look at how we run our business. Look at the investments we are making in our business. As long as I can keep providing that, take care of our cast members, the Central Florida community [and] take care of these guests ... I'm in good shape. I can only control what I can control.""

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"D'Amaro declined to get into the politics of the Reedy Creek district dispute, possible future political contributions or if there would be any legal challenge to the law. He said he is just making sure the parks and the cast members who keep it operating are in good hands — including the new district board's hands.

"The reality is we work with different people around the world at our different theme parks. So we know how to work with different people. For all those reasons, I have to look at the situation of where we are going — I believe in where we are going — and I hope the board sees the same." It's why he said he's optimistic about the park's future, and his message to the new board is that he hopes they understand the value the district and Disney create for the region and what's needed to keep that going.

"If that new board understands the value that gets created here and how it positively impacts the Central Florida community, I think they will be aligned with our vision and will carry on the Reedy Creek soul that's been in place," he said.

As for the guests visiting the local theme parks daily, D'Amaro said Walt Disney World still embraces the differences in the world and welcomes all kinds of visitors, regardless of their political backgrounds or other beliefs. That flag is something he is holding onto tightly as Disney embarks with the new district board and that board's reported closely tied political viewpoints.

"Will there be noise on the outside? Will there be different points of view that we may not like? Sure," he said, noting the company still will find success continuing to serve all types of people even if their beliefs may be different. "I really believe that, so we are not going to get distracted."

The new board for the Reedy Creek district will meet for the first time on March 8. The new board likely will address compensation of the district's first responders, DeSantis previously said.

Officials with DeSantis' office and Reedy Creek district were not available for comment."

The full article can be found at the link below.

Nothing in this article signals they’re planning to challenge either the RCID or the parental rights legislation.
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
Comments from Josh D'Amaro in a new article at the Orlando Business Journal.

"D'Amaro was careful to not discuss politics too much, choosing instead to speak on the theme park segment he oversees. He said he can't control how state leaders feel about the company, so he will stick to the things he can control — Walt Disney World and its sister parks.

"We will stay focused on what we have always done," he said. "Look at how we run our business. Look at the investments we are making in our business. As long as I can keep providing that, take care of our cast members, the Central Florida community [and] take care of these guests ... I'm in good shape. I can only control what I can control.""

This seems evocative of Chapek’s first email to employees, which advocated for a more measured response to the parental rights legislation:

As we have seen time and again, corporate statements do very little to change outcomes or minds. Instead, they are often weaponized by one side or the other to further divide and inflame. Simply put, they can be counterproductive and undermine more effective ways to achieve change.
I do not want anyone to mistake a lack of a statement for a lack of support. We all share the same goal of a more tolerant, respectful world. Where we may differ is in the tactics to get there. And because this struggle is much bigger than any one bill in any one state, I believe the best way for our company to bring about lasting change is through the inspiring content we produce, the welcoming culture we create, and the diverse community organizations we support.
 

el_super

Well-Known Member
"Will there be noise on the outside? Will there be different points of view that we may not like? Sure," he said, noting the company still will find success continuing to serve all types of people even if their beliefs may be different. "I really believe that, so we are not going to get distracted."

This was always going to be the right answer. Disney will keep fighting for the change they want to see, and they will continue to produxe the content they want to make. Whatever political moves they need to make, to accomplish that will be done behind the scenes. Reedy Creek wasn't worth picking an open fight with the state.

Glad that's all settled.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Comments from Josh D'Amaro in a new article at the Orlando Business Journal.

"D'Amaro was careful to not discuss politics too much, choosing instead to speak on the theme park segment he oversees. He said he can't control how state leaders feel about the company, so he will stick to the things he can control — Walt Disney World and its sister parks.

"We will stay focused on what we have always done," he said. "Look at how we run our business. Look at the investments we are making in our business. As long as I can keep providing that, take care of our cast members, the Central Florida community [and] take care of these guests ... I'm in good shape. I can only control what I can control.""

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"D'Amaro declined to get into the politics of the Reedy Creek district dispute, possible future political contributions or if there would be any legal challenge to the law. He said he is just making sure the parks and the cast members who keep it operating are in good hands — including the new district board's hands.

"The reality is we work with different people around the world at our different theme parks. So we know how to work with different people. For all those reasons, I have to look at the situation of where we are going — I believe in where we are going — and I hope the board sees the same." It's why he said he's optimistic about the park's future, and his message to the new board is that he hopes they understand the value the district and Disney create for the region and what's needed to keep that going.

"If that new board understands the value that gets created here and how it positively impacts the Central Florida community, I think they will be aligned with our vision and will carry on the Reedy Creek soul that's been in place," he said.

As for the guests visiting the local theme parks daily, D'Amaro said Walt Disney World still embraces the differences in the world and welcomes all kinds of visitors, regardless of their political backgrounds or other beliefs. That flag is something he is holding onto tightly as Disney embarks with the new district board and that board's reported closely tied political viewpoints.

"Will there be noise on the outside? Will there be different points of view that we may not like? Sure," he said, noting the company still will find success continuing to serve all types of people even if their beliefs may be different. "I really believe that, so we are not going to get distracted."

The new board for the Reedy Creek district will meet for the first time on March 8. The new board likely will address compensation of the district's first responders, DeSantis previously said.

Officials with DeSantis' office and Reedy Creek district were not available for comment."

The full article can be found at the link below.

So basically, we deal with hostile government oversight in other places and this won’t be any different.…we will still make a healthy buck.

One thing he points out that highlights a major issue with the new board:

"If that new board understands the value that gets created here and how it positively impacts the Central Florida community, I think they will be aligned with our vision and will carry on the Reedy Creek soul that's been in place," he said.

If the new board was actually made up of people from Central Florida who actually understand and care about the impact to the local community it would be a lot more likely they would act in good faith. Even political appointees would have to face their friends and neighbors who would be questioning any action that damages the largest employer and catalyst for the local economy.
 

mkt

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If the new board was actually made up of people from Central Florida who actually understand and care about the impact to the local community it would be a lot more likely they would act in good faith. Even political appointees would have to face their friends and neighbors who would be questioning any action that damages the largest employer and catalyst for the local economy.
Yep.

I expect one of the people (Ziegler) to flat out act in bad faith to push their own agenda, and possibly another (Peri). I expect the attorneys to rubber stamp whatever is placed in front of them.

Peri really is the wildcard here, since he does have (indirect) travel/tourism experience and is a Central Florida local. But he's also a faith based entrepreneur.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Nothing in this article signals they’re planning to challenge either the RCID or the parental rights legislation.
Nothing in that article says much of anything. It's a very long winded PR-speak response written to commit to nothing and say "as long as their goals are aligned with these obvious public benefit ideals everything should be fine'. The dude is the parks executive, not Disney legal or their gov relations people, etc.

At most it's a passive aggressive challenge to the new board to act within the actual purpose of the district vs what it's being warped into.

It's like the PR spokeperson's piece before... designed to make the audience believe and focus only on the idea there is no reason to be worried about disruption to our business. A statement whose sole purpose is to avoid spooking the market.
 

Nubs70

Well-Known Member
So basically, we deal with hostile government oversight in other places and this won’t be any different.…we will still make a healthy buck.
But when has Bob the Elder and Bob the Younger ever had a speech in Shanghai and/or Hong Kong stating WDW stance on Uigher rights?
 

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