News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Vegas Disney Fan]

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Disney has to wait until they suffer actual harm at the hands of the new board.

This is my belief also, threatening to hit someone vs actually hitting someone, both are technically illegal but they are vastly different in terms of proof and severity.

Currently the new board is only a threat, they “might” harm Disney but they haven’t yet so there’s no evidence, if/when they actually do harm Disney then Disney has a much stronger court case.

 

[LAKid53]

It's definitely a political stunt.

DeSantis is smarter than he's acting.

As lazyboy97o has pointed out, though, even if nothing really comes of this specific thing it sets precedent and makes it all that much easier for the future erosion of corporate and citizen rights in this state.

Regardless of if you agree with DeStantis' statements about "woke" Disney or not and regardless of if this actually hurts Disney or not, this should be troubling.

My thoughts? Iger is biding his time. The members of the Board will be confirmed once the Legislature starts session next Tuesday.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Good luck to that. The Central Florida Tourism Authority District doesn't own or operate WDW.

No, but they can negatively impact the operations of Walt Disney World.

 

[LAKid53]

No, but they can negatively impact the operations of Walt Disney World.

Not really. The board doesn't run the parks, park CMs, including talent, aren't district employees. If they tried that, that's when Disney would take action.

 

[lazyboy97o]

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This is my belief also, threatening to hit someone vs actually hitting someone, both are technically illegal but they are vastly different in terms of proof and severity.

Currently the new board is only a threat, they “might” harm Disney but they haven’t yet so there’s no evidence, if/when they actually do harm Disney then Disney has a much stronger court case.

If the police stop you from voting because they don’t like who you will vote for, have you not been harmed until the elected official does something to more directly harm you? Or is just preventing your participation itself a harm?

 

[LAKid53]

If the police stop you from voting because they don’t like who you will vote for, have you not been harmed until the elected official does something to more directly harm you? Or is just preventing your participation itself a harm?

Yes you've been harmed.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Not really. The board doesn't run the parks, park CMs, including talent, aren't district employees. If they tried that, that's when Disney would take action.

They control things directly related to park operations. They could shut a hotel, restaurant or now even a ride down for the day over safety concerns. They can deny projects approval to move forward. And while each of those are being litigated they can keep doing it to other things. The power is absolutely there to be abused.

 

[peter11435]

Not really. The board doesn't run the parks, park CMs, including talent, aren't district employees. If they tried that, that's when Disney would take action.

You underestimate the power the district has over WDW operations and its services.

 

[LAKid53]

They control things directly related to park operations. They could shut a hotel, restaurant or now even a ride down for the day over safety concerns. They can deny projects approval to move forward. And while each of those are being litigated they can keep doing it to other things. The power is absolutely there to be abused.

Which then gives Disney grounds as they'd be harmed.

Might be time to purchase stock in popcorn.

 

[CaptainMickey]

Maybe Iger is secretly playing 4D chess to right all the injustices in Florida, California, China, Japan and France, OR...

maybe he is just looking to make as much money as possible for the company, the shareholders and himself and call it a day.

He definitely doesn't want to give any Orlando cast members a penny more then they have to. Ask the union.

 

[Nubs70]

Politicians are allowed to lie for “campaign speech”. They do it all the time.

Many on this board, especially those who despise DeSantis, say he’s doing this to raise funds for his presidential run.

All DeSantis’ attorneys have to say in front of a judge is, “All those public statements were to gain favor with the Republican electorate. Really, the Governor is genuinely worried that RCID gave Disney an unfair advantage over its competition in central Florida.”

A judge who leans conservative might hear this and accept this statement from DeSantis’ attorneys. Case dismissed without prejudice. Now Disney has to wait until they suffer actual harm at the hands of the new board.

So it can be said that Disney does not have standing until harm has been incurred by the action of the new board? Correct?

 

[peter11435]

So it can be said that Disney does not have standing until harm has been incurred by the action of the new board? Correct?

No

 

[Tha Realest]

So it can be said that Disney does not have standing until harm has been incurred by the action of the new board? Correct?

Standing can be a complex thing but potentially, yes.

RCID =\= Disney. I know they’ve been conflated in the past but but they are distinct entities. Disney may be harmed in the removal of their representation rights in terms of selecting and choosing board members, but that’s the only immediate issue.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Which then gives Disney grounds as they'd be harmed.

Might be time to purchase stock in popcorn.

Depending how it is done, the grounds can easily become much murkier. The district is allowed to conduct safety inspections. They’re allowed to order facilities closed if they feel they are unsafe. They can deny projects for a variety of reasons.

And even if Disney has good grounds, it’s only for that one decision. They can just do it again the next day while the first matter get litigated over years. The chances of getting an injunction for something like barring the fire marshal from inspecting buildings is close to nill.

 

[mmascari]

maybe [Iger] is just looking to make as much money as possible for the company, the shareholders and himself and call it a day.

Giving Ron full control over all Disney content decisions would seem to put a dent in the money machine. It's another bold move.

I cannot wait for the next Star Wars movie where the Empire is the good guys. Out there imposing their values on the rest of the galaxy.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Maybe Iger is secretly playing 4D chess to right all the injustices in Florida, California, China, Japan and France, OR...

maybe he is just looking to make as much money as possible for the company, the shareholders and himself and call it a day.

He definitely doesn't want to give any Orlando cast members a penny more then they have to. Ask the union.

Lots of ongoing litigation to challenge multiple district actions wouldn’t be cheap.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Emotional meeting ends with DeSantis' New College of Florida board abolishing diversity office

Cutting New College's Office of Outreach and Inclusive Excellence, which handles diversity issues, is one of the revamped board's first big moves.

www.usatoday.com

What kinds of decisions will DeSantis’ cronies possibly make regarding Disney?

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

Lots of ongoing litigation to challenge multiple district actions wouldn’t be cheap.

In addition there is a cost benefit analysis that needs to be performed for each individual suit that could be brought.

Bogging down the new district in litigation on every matter (even if at times tedious changes are requested or purposeful delays are imposed) could simply add fuel to the fire. And create a more adverse relationship with the board that would only worsen the relationship.

It’s best to take this on a case by case basis. In some cases remedies outside of court (even if more costly than the status quo) are likely preferred to protracted litigation. Time will also tell if individual members of the board may opt to make public statements that could either perjure themselves on certain matters or require them to recuse themselves as conflicts of interest become more apparent.

 

[peter11435]

Lots of ongoing litigation to challenge multiple district actions wouldn’t be cheap.

Not to mention Disney would basically be paying for both sides of the litigation

 

[mmascari]

They can deny projects for a variety of reasons.

Or, for no reason at all.

The just announced less than a month ago $176M World Drive project, that Orlando Business Journal says "Once started, the project will take two years to complete.".

Once confirmed, the new board could:

• Stop the project immediately with nothing done.
• Shortly after the project starts, stop the project.
• In the middle of the project, when everything is torn up with maximum disruption, temporary diversions, and traffic cones everywhere, stop the project.
• Let it go to completion.

They don't need any reason at all to pick any of those options. Just the whimsy that it wasn't a great idea to spend resources on the project and that they would prefer to do something else with the money.

Short of a smoking email that directly says the project is being stopped because of content Disney is creating, there isn't any grounds Disney could sue the district on for stopping the project. The normal check on this would be voting for new board members that will take actions their constituents desire does not apply any more.

Even with that smoking email, because lets just accept that it wouldn't be an email, it'll be a stump speech shouted for all to hear, they would still have to prove that this was the reason when the board says "actually we missed the speech and just thought it was poor use of funds".