News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[MagicHappens1971]

I agree with you, I don't think its definitively over. The last place Disney is going to fight this is in public, at least right now.
They very well could be rolling over, but my first reaction when I read the Disney release was "dang there going hard with this". I think they are going the silent but deadly route.

Disney has plenty of lobbyists in Tallahassee right now anyway. Just because it looks like they aren't fighting this doesn't mean they aren't.

 

[mikejs78]

There's always the possibility that Disney isn't the one to fight this (directly).

 

[LittleBuford]

I’m just saying there are reasons to release a statement like that even if you are planning legal action.

It reads to me very much like a definitive concession: "We are focused on the future [i.e., we understand our control over RCID is over] and are ready to work within this new framework". There's no hint of equivocation or open-endedness that I can detect.

 

[Nubs70]

Disney has given us no reason to think or hope otherwise. They've capitulated. And they've lost not only the district, but whatever respect they gained by speaking out (albeit belatedly) in support of their CMs. They'd have done better to stay silent if cowardice was the route they were going to take anyway.

DIS was better off to stay silent and work the issues behind the scenes.

 

[LittleBuford]

DIS was better off to stay silent and work the issues behind the scenes.

I disagree. They should have fought their CMs’ corner from the outset, and they should still be fighting now.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It reads to me very much like a definitive concession: "We are focused on the future [i.e., we understand our control over RCID is over] and are ready to work within this new framework". There's no hint of equivocation or open-endedness that I can detect.

Yeah. That statement was ready very quickly. They could have said nothing, as they had for months, or stalled by talking about still reviewing new legislation or some other excuse. While they don’t want to highlight the de facto situation of RCID = Disney, it seems doubtful that this is the start of “we’re not doing anything, the District is doing it”. Maybe they’ve made Target or CVS some great deal to make a move on behalf of the landowners. Can the Army sue? That announcement of layoffs will probably have a nice chilling effect on any employee activism.

 

[Nubs70]

I disagree. They should have fought their CMs’ corner from the outset, and they should still be fighting now.

Mickey needs to lead a protest in front of the Governors mansion.

 

[celluloid]

Mickey needs to lead a protest in front of the Governors mansion.

At this point the company does not even know The Mickey Mouse March anymore, I don't think they could get him to do it.

 

[Bullseye1967]

Certainly possible. Like it or not. And if communication does come out clarifying their intent then they will end a lot of speculation. Although I’m not sure how or why the union would have any insight here.

The unions are involved in every part of this. The unions pushed Chapek to make a statement. They are in this start to finish. Anytime WDW makes a big release the unions have a 24ish notice so they can do the same. The call if the Unions will make a timed release with this memo is in question. If they don't they are not "in the know". If they do, it appears they agree. That would make them look like they lost. Disney knows what they will release tomorrow. Not so much for the union speak.

 

[Heath]

You reap what you sow.

 

[StCloudTiger]

From the decent sources I am hearing this is done. No I did not have a chat with Bob, but a memo will be coming out to CM's tomorrow. I am far from an insider but I am hearing this both from the union side and finance.

Anyone who has visited Disney

I agree with you, I don't think its definitively over. The last place Disney is going to fight this is in public, at least right now.
They very well could be rolling over, but my first reaction when I read the Disney release was "dang there going hard with this". I think they are going the silent but deadly route.

They have to fight. Anyone who has visited Disneyland Paris recently can envisage what will evolve if they dont. As you approach DLP you have to pass hawkers and the sales of knockoff products. It certainly is not so magical. Florida can expect a negative effect on tourism if they dont fight.

 

[Tha Realest]

There's always the possibility that Disney isn't the one to fight this (directly).

Perhaps. But heavily complicates standing on First Amendment issue

 

[ohioguy]

In the end, it's all win for Disney. Board members of the new district won't block any development, and some costs may be transferred over to the state. DeSantis may have won the battle, Disney wins the war.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don’t know what nitwit “law maker” it was - cause I frankly don’t want his name in my head - but the quote I saw was “they thought they were gonna tell 25,000,000 people what to do…” regarding Disney making a statement regarding this nonsense political stunt.

It’s disgusting…and it’s Unamerican.

Disney should cancel lake Nona - at a minimum - by the time the sunrises in burbank.

This is wrong.

 

[lazyboy97o]

In the end, it's all win for Disney. Board members of the new district won't block any development, and some costs may be transferred over to the state. DeSantis may have won the battle, Disney wins the war.

What prevents the new board from not interfering ? What costs could be transferred to the state?

 

[Alanzo]

What prevents the new board from not interfering ? What costs could be transferred to the state?

I imagine most of the (construction) work the improvement district approves is not very woke and interfering with it just to be jerks, clogging up the pipelines, would be a terrible economic look.

 

[peter11435]

It reads to me very much like a definitive concession: "We are focused on the future [i.e., we understand our control over RCID is over] and are ready to work within this new framework". There's no hint of equivocation or open-endedness that I can detect.

They don’t need to hint at any future action

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What prevents the new board from not interfering ? What costs could be transferred to the state?

Nothing and none

Get ready for “it”…like forever

Certain segments of fans are gonna try to straddle supporting the nonsensical party politics here…and still think Disney will “outsmart” it and build them new rides and fire work shows because of it…

Watch out for that fence post

 

[peter11435]

The unions are involved in every part of this. The unions pushed Chapek to make a statement. They are in this start to finish. Anytime WDW makes a big release the unions have a 24ish notice so they can do the same. The call if the Unions will make a timed release with this memo is in question. If they don't they are not "in the know". If they do, it appears they agree. That would make them look like they lost. Disney knows what they will release tomorrow. Not so much for the union speak.

Unions certainly had involvement in pushing Disney to act on the parental rights bill. And unions are given notice of actions that will impact their members. Unions are not given insight into pending legal actions.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Just so we’re clear, it would seem you only have a problem when Disney capitulates to wanna-be dictators as opposed to actual dictators

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Not sure who was advocating capitulating to China as it relates to this nonsense?

Because it is…one entity looks really stupid here…
I’ll give you a hint: it’s 1 outta 50