LittleBuford
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What makes you say that? I'm not challenging you, but looing for a glimmer of hope!I wouldn’t necessarily say that Jeff’s statement today definitively indicates that the company will not fight this.
What makes you say that? I'm not challenging you, but looing for a glimmer of hope!I wouldn’t necessarily say that Jeff’s statement today definitively indicates that the company will not fight this.
Nah. Splash is a goner
From the decent sources I am hearing this is done. No I did not have a chat with Bob, but a memo will be coming out to CM's tomorrow. I am far from an insider but I am hearing this both from the union side and finance.I wouldn’t necessarily say that Jeff’s statement today definitively indicates that the company will not fight this.
Im not saying they will fight it. I’m just saying there are reasons to release a statement like that even if you are planning legal action. And he didn’t specifically say they weren’t. WDW must operate under the assumption that the new district is the future and they must reassure investors, cast members, and potential guests that they are prepared for that reality with little to no change to the experience.What makes you say that? I'm not challenging you, but looing for a glimmer of hope!
Certainly possible. Like it or not. And if communication does come out clarifying their intent then they will end a lot of speculation. Although I’m not sure how or why the union would have any insight here.From the decent sources I am hearing this is done. No I did not have a chat with Bob, but a memo will be coming out to CM's tomorrow. I am far from an insider but I am hearing this both from the union side and finance.
I wouldn’t necessarily say that Jeff’s statement today definitively indicates that the company will not fight this.
Disney has plenty of lobbyists in Tallahassee right now anyway. Just because it looks like they aren't fighting this doesn't mean they aren't.I agree with you, I don't think its definitively over. The last place Disney is going to fight this is in public, at least right now.
They very well could be rolling over, but my first reaction when I read the Disney release was "dang there going hard with this". I think they are going the silent but deadly route.
It reads to me very much like a definitive concession: "We are focused on the future [i.e., we understand our control over RCID is over] and are ready to work within this new framework". There's no hint of equivocation or open-endedness that I can detect.I’m just saying there are reasons to release a statement like that even if you are planning legal action.
DIS was better off to stay silent and work the issues behind the scenes.Disney has given us no reason to think or hope otherwise. They've capitulated. And they've lost not only the district, but whatever respect they gained by speaking out (albeit belatedly) in support of their CMs. They'd have done better to stay silent if cowardice was the route they were going to take anyway.
I disagree. They should have fought their CMs’ corner from the outset, and they should still be fighting now.DIS was better off to stay silent and work the issues behind the scenes.
Yeah. That statement was ready very quickly. They could have said nothing, as they had for months, or stalled by talking about still reviewing new legislation or some other excuse. While they don’t want to highlight the de facto situation of RCID = Disney, it seems doubtful that this is the start of “we’re not doing anything, the District is doing it”. Maybe they’ve made Target or CVS some great deal to make a move on behalf of the landowners. Can the Army sue? That announcement of layoffs will probably have a nice chilling effect on any employee activism.It reads to me very much like a definitive concession: "We are focused on the future [i.e., we understand our control over RCID is over] and are ready to work within this new framework". There's no hint of equivocation or open-endedness that I can detect.
Mickey needs to lead a protest in front of the Governors mansion.I disagree. They should have fought their CMs’ corner from the outset, and they should still be fighting now.
Mickey needs to lead a protest in front of the Governors mansion.
The unions are involved in every part of this. The unions pushed Chapek to make a statement. They are in this start to finish. Anytime WDW makes a big release the unions have a 24ish notice so they can do the same. The call if the Unions will make a timed release with this memo is in question. If they don't they are not "in the know". If they do, it appears they agree. That would make them look like they lost. Disney knows what they will release tomorrow. Not so much for the union speak.Certainly possible. Like it or not. And if communication does come out clarifying their intent then they will end a lot of speculation. Although I’m not sure how or why the union would have any insight here.
Anyone who has visited DisneyFrom the decent sources I am hearing this is done. No I did not have a chat with Bob, but a memo will be coming out to CM's tomorrow. I am far from an insider but I am hearing this both from the union side and finance.
They have to fight. Anyone who has visited Disneyland Paris recently can envisage what will evolve if they dont. As you approach DLP you have to pass hawkers and the sales of knockoff products. It certainly is not so magical. Florida can expect a negative effect on tourism if they dont fight.I agree with you, I don't think its definitively over. The last place Disney is going to fight this is in public, at least right now.
They very well could be rolling over, but my first reaction when I read the Disney release was "dang there going hard with this". I think they are going the silent but deadly route.
Perhaps. But heavily complicates standing on First Amendment issueThere's always the possibility that Disney isn't the one to fight this (directly).
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