AdventureHasAName
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Uni, Seaworld, Merlin = Cersei in this GiF
Exactly. When your primary competitor is setting itself on fire, your best course of action is to shut up, get out of the way, and watch from the sidelines.
Uni, Seaworld, Merlin = Cersei in this GiF
In no way is Florida legislators denying Disney their first amendment right, in no way is the Florida legislature impeding their ability to do business. Tell me how Disney's free speech is being stifledMe thinks you might not understand exactly how the first amendment protections actually work.
If the actions don’t cause the intended party harm then it’s a pretty weak form of retaliation.
I agree with your statement 1000%. I want Reedy Creek to stick around because I love the fact that Disney doesn’t have to jump through hoops through local government to accomplish things. I guess I’m just so skeptical these days because I see people stating this is a First Amendment issue and the government is retaliating well I see many people complaining that the second amendment is being infringed punt all the time. I feel like people try to have it both ways often. And who’s right or wrong comes completely down to what side of the political aisle somebody sits on. It’s frustrating and disheartening. I really wish they could be another party called the common sense party but I know that is very unlikely to ever happen.
In no way is Florida legislators denying Disney their first amendment right, in no way is the Florida legislature impeding their ability to do business. Tell me how Disney's free speech is being stifled
This move and their open statements about why FL legislators and the governor are making it is retaliation and punishment for political speech. That’s a problem.In no way is Florida legislators denying Disney their first amendment right, in no way is the Florida legislature impeding their ability to do business. Tell me how Disney's free speech is being stifled
I disagree. The first amendment is meant to prevent Government from passing laws to punish or impede speech (as interpreted by the SCOTUS many times) which is what the people who proposed this bill explicit said it was designed to do.In no way is Florida legislators denying Disney their first amendment right, in no way is the Florida legislature impeding their ability to do business. Tell me how Disney's free speech is being stifled
Actually I think they would have violated Sparkle's 1st Amendment rights since most of what qualifies as "hate speech" IS protected by the first amendment.HYPOTHETICAL: "Sparkle" is a monthly children's magazine that consists almost entirely of educational cartoon stories about animals. New Jersey loves that Sparkle was created by someone (Jill Johnson) who lives in NJ (born and raised) and most of the cartoon animal stories are set in a fictional town in NJ. Miss Johnson owns 100% of Sparkle, a NJ corporation. To promote Sparkle, New Jersey's state government offers Sparkle a tax break to maintain its office of five people in Newark, New Jersey. Five years later, 100% of Sparkle is purchased by Kevin Kelly. Mr. Kelly is a proud member of the KKK and often wears Klan robes as he walks around the streets of New Jersey. Sparkle immediately begins publishing cartoon animal stories that include LGBTQ characters that are shunned by the other characters. These LGBTQ characters are portrayed as poor, dirty, smelly, dumb, etc. Simultaneously, Sparkle begins publishing editorials at the front of the magazine about how NJ's government is harming "normal" kids by promoting non-binary gender identity. Several state government officials publicly state Sparkle is no longer welcome in New Jersey, including the governor. The New Jersey state legislature votes to remove Sparkle's tax break.
QUESTION: Has New Jersey violated Sparkle's 1st Amendment rights?
The answer to this question is the answer to whether or not Florida is in violation of Disney's free speech rights and whether or not this RCID-dissolution bill is legal.
So you believe NJ must subsidize the monthly Klan editorials in perpetuity? Sparkle (the now anti-LGBTQ publication) is entitled to NJ state benefits forever?Actually I think they would have violated Sparkle's 1st Amendment rights since most of what qualifies as "hate speech" IS protected by the first amendment.
The answer to this question is the answer to whether or not Florida is in violation of Disney's free speech rights and whether or not this RCID-dissolution bill is legal.
While I do see the various legal processes eventually carry this issue to the High Court time lapse wise RCID would have ceased to exist by then. The landscape will look completely different.an overwhelming parallel regarding the legal issue at hand and I foresee this question ultimately taken up by the Supremes in DC
Meh - disney also knows it sill be around longer than desantisDeSantis ultimately has Disney over a barrel here as they can't exactly relocate WDW and WDW provides a very juicy target for political theatre as this whole turn of events has shown.
This brings up a a question that I have. If someone or something like a corporation does something that causes the government to scrutinize that thing and then either pass a law that negatively affects the first party is it only “illegal” if the government says “we’re doing this to retaliate for X”?
I have heard at various points over the past couple decades that Florida has looked at modifying the RCID deal so if they had passed the bill 2 years ago would it have been fine? And if so how then does the process violate 1A?
Now, can they get in front of a court and give different reasons it was done to avoid it getting shot down and some judge buy it? Sure and they probably will. It is still wrong.
They still have significant land holdings in the county. Any across the board tax increases will impact them as well.They probably don’t care because they don’t have 28,000 acres that requires the same level of services as a small city.
True. Disney Co. will also be around post B.C. too, thankfully. As for Disney's choices / moves in the Anaheim, simply put, have not worked out particularly well. Hence necessitating the corporate asset migration away from CA. WDW will still look the same and be the same for the guests.Meh - disney also knows it sill be around longer than desantis
This is the game played in anahiem too.. and there disney is far more aggressive in the campaigns about who is elected
If this happened in isolation you’d be correct- but it didn’tHow long will Capek last as Disney stock continues to decline? Disney as a corporation's has every right to voice their opinion on political matters. Florida has every right reviewing sweet deals made with Walt 50 years ago. If Florida rescinds those deals, it does not infringe on Disney's right to continue voicing their opinion 1st amendment violation argument is nonsense.
Did you forget these companies are not just ‘entertainment’ to the tens of thousands of people that look to that company as a provider of employment?not true. this is about keeping these companies out of the political arena. They have no business being there and should just stick to what they do best...entertainment!
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